—> ICE / Immigration Catch-All

[ChapelHillSooner]

When we get the presidency, I think we're going to have to start rounding up MAGAs and throwing them in a hole, just so they can appreciate the danger. If it happens to them, maybe they will think twice about it. Maybe.

As far as I am concerned, El Salvador is holding a legal US resident hostage at the behest of their president.

If I were president I would order the man returned or face a military operation to retrieve the guy.

 

[tarheelbillie]

OK GOP controlled congress, it is time to stand up and show your worth. Time to impeach and remove. I believe we have reached the point where the people will back you. This is the time when you should feel obligated to impeach or just pack up and come home. The situation is that we now have a one branch federal government. SCOTUS is to be ignored and Congress has no way forward for anything that doesn't enjoy the blessing of the barbarian wannabe god in the WH. Then... I guess you can wait and hope the sociopath doesn't become a serial killer.

 

[Silence Dogood]

actually, numerous blind polls in the lead-up to the election showed pretty overwhelmingly that Americans preferred biden and then harris policy on most things.

the problem is messaging.

unfortunately, our country is chock full of rubes like you who vote R because you've been completely fleeced by the right wing media ecosystem into believing a whole host of things that aren't even remotely true.

this thread is a perfect example. you're in here spewing nonsense, looking like a complete idiot while much smarter people try to explain things to you like a child and your response is to spew more idiocy and lies.

 

[4thgenheel]

Harris vs. Trump on the issues: Whose policies do voters prefer? | YouGov

As the 2024 presidential election approaches, we take a deep dive into the policies that registered voters support, the issues they care about, and the candidates they trust to handle them.

today.yougov.com

Kamala Harris’s economic policy slate more popular than Trump’s – poll

Exclusive: Harris Poll for Guardian finds Democrat put forward four of top five most popular economic proposals

www.theguardian.com

 

[superrific]

As far as I am concerned, El Salvador is holding a legal US resident hostage at the behest of their president.

If I were president I would order the man returned or face a military operation to retrieve the guy.

Sort of legal US resident. A person in US custody.

 

[Silence Dogood]

Harris vs. Trump on the issues: Whose policies do voters prefer? | YouGov

As the 2024 presidential election approaches, we take a deep dive into the policies that registered voters support, the issues they care about, and the candidates they trust to handle them.

today.yougov.com

Kamala Harris’s economic policy slate more popular than Trump’s – poll

Exclusive: Harris Poll for Guardian finds Democrat put forward four of top five most popular economic proposals

www.theguardian.com

Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote

U.S. voters rate the economy as the most important issue to their presidential vote, with democracy, potential Supreme Court picks and terrorism/national security also ranking highly.

news.gallup.com

Voters favor Trump on economy, immigration, and foreign affairs. Trump is favored on issues that matter the most.

 

[4thgenheel]

Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote

U.S. voters rate the economy as the most important issue to their presidential vote, with democracy, potential Supreme Court picks and terrorism/national security also ranking highly.

news.gallup.com

Voters favor Trump on economy, immigration, and foreign affairs. Trump is favored on issues that matter the most.

can you read? serious question. that isn't blind polling.

when presented with the ACTUAL policies without candidate names, voters overwhelmingly preferred harris/dem policies.

 

[lawtig02]

Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote

U.S. voters rate the economy as the most important issue to their presidential vote, with democracy, potential Supreme Court picks and terrorism/national security also ranking highly.

news.gallup.com

Voters favored Trump on economy, immigration, and foreign affairs. Trump was, but is no longer, favored on issues that matter the most.

FIFY

 

[Silence Dogood]

can you read? serious question. that isn't blind polling.

when presented with the ACTUAL policies without candidate names, voters overwhelmingly preferred harris/dem policies.

Doesn't work like that though. Real world vs wording a polling question to sound good is different. You're trying to justify a losing argument. Hence the Democratic party is still very unpopular.

 

[Burgawnc]

Of equal concern is the shocking disingenuous response by Salvadorian President Bukele Ortez. He statied he did not have authority to free Mr Garcia from s Salvidorian government prison.
This is a lie to please Donald Trump.
Equally as shocking is Trumps statement suggesting using CECOT to imprison more American citizens in his new Gulag. .

 

[4thgenheel]

Doesn't work like that though. Real world vs wording a polling question to sound good is different. You're trying to justify a losing argument. Hence the Democratic party is still very unpopular.

it does work like that, though. the policies themselves are the real world. that's the whole point of blind polling - remove biases and let people pick the actual policy and results that they want.

and Americans pretty overwhelmingly prefer dem policies but many of them vote for republicans because like you, they are stupid and propagandized.

 

[dcphx]

"Home-growns are next."

Aka Democrats and protesters exercising their first amendment rights.

 

[Silence Dogood]

it does work like that, though. the policies themselves are the real world. that's the whole point of blind polling - remove biases and let people pick the actual policy and results that they want.

and Americans pretty overwhelmingly prefer dem policies but many of them vote for republicans because like you, they are stupid and propagandized.

It doesn't work like that because you can phrase a question to sound good. Do you favor affordable housing for everyone? Yes. In actuality, everyone's taxes are raised, the house will have low standards, people who choose not too work will have same house as someone who does work, etc. Great sounding blind question but won't work.

 

[Silence Dogood]

Of equal concern is the shocking disingenuous response by Salvadorian President Bukele Ortez. He statied he did not have authority to free Mr Garcia from s Salvidorian government prison.
This is a lie to please Donald Trump.
Equally as shocking is Trumps statement suggesting using CECOT to imprison more American citizens in his new Gulag. .

Keep defending the ms13 guy, not a winning argument for next election.

 

[nycfan]

Could you guys move the debate on the 2024 election and general political matters to a different thread so this one stays somewhat focused on the topic?

 

[4thgenheel]

It doesn't work like that because you can phrase a question to sound good. Do you favor affordable housing for everyone? Yes. In actuality, everyone's taxes are raised, the house will have low standards, people who choose not too work will have same house as someone who does work, etc. Great sounding blind question but won't work.

what are you babbling about? there are no questions to be "phrased to sound good."

respondents are presented with the candidates literal policy positions, not questions. YouGov, Harris/Nielsen, etc. etc. are reliable, unbiased research and analytics and polling sources.

look at the YouGov poll. it goes over a vast array of policy positions and the formatting is extremely simple so even you can understand it.

they ask voters what they prefer and multiple polls show that the majority prefer harris/democratic policy on a wide range of issues.

 

[4thgenheel]

Could you guys move the debate on the 2024 election and general political matters to a different thread so this one stays somewhat focused on the topic?

my apologies. i won't respond to Silence Dipshit's off topic drivel any more.

 

[nycfan]

what are you babbling about? there are no questions to be "phrased to sound good."

respondents are presented with the candidates literal policy positions, not questions. YouGov, Harris/Nielsen, etc. etc. are reliable, unbiased research and analytics and polling sources.

look at the YouGov poll. it goes over a vast array of policy positions and the formatting is extremely simple so even you can understand it.

they ask voters what they prefer and multiple polls show that the majority prefer harris/democratic policy on a wide range of issues.

Would really appreciate you guys taking this discussion to a new thread dedicated to the argument.

 

[nycfan]

my apologies. i won't respond to Silence Dipshit's off topic drivel any more.

I am not trying to stop people debating, just asking that off-topic debates move to a new thread rather than derail one on a different original topic.

 

[4thgenheel]

Keep defending the ms13 guy, not a winning argument for next election.

despite being asked by the courts, none of ICE, the DOJ or the white house have presented a shred of evidence that abrego garcia is in ms-13.

they admitted that he was sent to CECOT due to an administrative error.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf