I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

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especially since a few days ago some moron screenshotted posts from one of the only true insiders on IC and posted them on a freaking bleacher report message board and now we've lost that insider's information forever.
I missed this...what happened?
 
Last thing I’ll say on this thread and then I’ll shut up unless someone specifically responds to one of my posts. I truly do not understand what the big deal is about messsge board moderation. I lost count of how many posts that I had edited or removed on the old ZZLP, and how many times I got direct messages from Snoop and Chris about posting behaviors that were in danger of warranting a ban. Every single time I had a post edited and every single time I PMs from the moderators, I deserved it every single time. And every single time I knocked off whatever I was told to knock off, just like I’ll knock off whatever I’m told to knock off by mods on this new board. It really isn’t difficult. Do grown adults truly legitimately feel this completely violated by message board moderation, and if so, why the fuck?
... because they're not fully formed adults. They're petulant children who never grew up, learned manners, or possessed the discipline for self-reflection or introspection. It's not hard for adults to disagree respectfully. I meet dozens of people every day with whom I vehemently disagree. Yet, I find a way to either 1) get along with them or 2) avoid them. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Not so difficult IF you learned those traits as a child. It's MUCH harder if you are a malformed or broken adult.
 
This would be funny if you didn't think you were actually making a point.
This is how discussion boards work. At least the ones that you don't get to kick off anybody you don't agree with. Just because someone doesn't immediately agree with Grand Pooba Snoop doesn't mean they're disrespecting you or trolling. Sorry you have to hear things you don't like on this one.
 
Last thing I’ll say on this thread and then I’ll shut up unless someone specifically responds to one of my posts. I truly do not understand what the big deal is about messsge board moderation. I lost count of how many posts that I had edited or removed on the old ZZLP, and how many times I got direct messages from Snoop and Chris about posting behaviors that were in danger of warranting a ban. Every single time I had a post edited and every single time I PMs from the moderators, I deserved it every single time. And every single time I knocked off whatever I was told to knock off, just like I’ll knock off whatever I’m told to knock off by mods on this new board. It really isn’t difficult. Do grown adults truly legitimately feel this completely violated by message board moderation, and if so, why the fuck?

Well I’d crudely estimate your word count on the thread as 3rd or 4th most of all posters, so there’s that
 
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This post coming from a poster whose entire shtick is relentless goalpost moving contrarianism is the funnies thing I've seen on a message board in a long time...
Yep. It's kind of supposed to be. It was really to illustrate that just because people disagree even though people present "evidence", it doesn't make them some sort of troll or contrarian or or whatever else Snoop dreamed up to ban people he didn't agree with.
 
This is how discussion boards work. At least the ones that you don't get to kick off anybody you don't agree with. Just because someone doesn't immediately agree with Grand Pooba Snoop doesn't mean they're disrespecting you or trolling. Sorry you have to hear things you don't like on this one.
You are thrashing the strawman of me that you've built up in your mind. I mean, really giving him a good beating.

I went back to look at the last ban thread to see how many permanbans we gave out to folks who were consistent, long-term ZZLP posters. That thread covers about 4.5 years. There were 4...

UNCBA2007
Ovshinsky
Lynch34
gtyellowjckt

That's 3 conservatives and 1 liberal. And 2007's ban was for LGBTQ bigotry while the other 3 were for trolling.

Again, 4 bans in a little over 4 years. So much angst over so little real issue.
 
I’ll post wherever, whenever, and however I goddamn well choose.

You should be on your knees thanking me profusely. I’m trying to help save you and another poster from looking like a bunch of pathetic ass grown adults crying about something called a “Snoop Rob.”

Nobody is crying about shit you clown ass idiot. We're merely pointing out the fact that his moderation style is highly suggestive of certain unfulfilled psychological needs. And we're doing so in a thread he started about moderation. So maybe you should stop crying about people who are not crying.
 
Yep. It's kind of supposed to be. It was really to illustrate that just because people disagree even though people present "evidence", it doesn't make them some sort of troll or contrarian or or whatever else Snoop dreamed up to ban people he didn't agree with.
The point is to be as annoying as possible for as long as possible to show why you shouldn't have gotten banned for trolling?

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You are thrashing the strawman of me that you've built up in your mind. I mean, really giving him a good beating.

I went back to look at the last ban thread to see how many permanbans we gave out to folks who were consistent, long-term ZZLP posters. That thread covers about 4.5 years. There were 4...

UNCBA2007
Ovshinsky
Lynch34
gtyellowjckt

That's 3 conservatives and 1 liberal. And 2007's ban was for LGBTQ bigotry while the other 3 were for trolling.

Again, 4 bans in a little over 4 years. So much angst over so little real issue.
What? Stop lying at least to yourself. There are two other people on this thread that have said they were permabanned.
 
The point is to be as annoying as possible for as long as possible to show why you shouldn't have gotten banned for trolling?

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Sorry the thread didn't go the way you hoped it would go. I'm responding to every point you make and you're making a counterpoint. You know... the way discussions work. You're annoying the hell out of me with your lies and minimizations.
 
especially since a few days ago some moron screenshotted posts from one of the only true insiders on IC and posted them on a freaking bleacher report message board and now we've lost that insider's information forever.
What was the info? Or can you point to the thread and page on IC where he posted it?
 
You are thrashing the strawman of me that you've built up in your mind. I mean, really giving him a good beating.

I went back to look at the last ban thread to see how many permanbans we gave out to folks who were consistent, long-term ZZLP posters. That thread covers about 4.5 years. There were 4...

UNCBA2007
Ovshinsky
Lynch34
gtyellowjckt

That's 3 conservatives and 1 liberal. And 2007's ban was for LGBTQ bigotry while the other 3 were for trolling.

Again, 4 bans in a little over 4 years. So much angst over so little real issue.
OCS and RBG weren't permabans?
 
I can tell I shouldn't expect to receive a Christmas card from the PollosHermanos household.

Were you banned under the username LosPollosHermanos? If so, it looks like the ban was made in August 2016, is that correct?

I have no recollection of when the ban of LPH happened as I went straight into a new account. It does not seem like it was 8 years ago but it may have been.
 
Nobody is crying about shit you clown ass idiot. We're merely pointing out the fact that his moderation style is highly suggestive of certain unfulfilled psychological needs. And we're doing so in a thread he started about moderation. So maybe you should stop crying about people who are not crying.
I am SO SORRY to have offended your delicate sensibilities on the internet, TheChickenBrothers, and I hope that you can both somehow forgive me AND go on to live some semblance of a normal life. You have my most sincerest best wishes, thoughts, and prayers. You will overcome!
 
Sorry the thread didn't go the way you hoped it would go. I'm responding to every point you make and you're making a counterpoint. You know... the way discussions work. You're annoying the hell out of me with your lies and minimizations.
I assumed there would be some folks banned on IC who'd show up to this thread to bitch and moan. And I knew that most wouldn't take any response they received seriously even if I provided explanations with data.

And I know that you never actually learn anything from these kinds of discussions.

In short, this part of the thread has largely gone the way I expected.
 
I haven't been online since Friday, so I'm just seeing this thread and haven't read anything beyond the first page.

I posted on, and was banned from, ZZLP. I also simply read ZZLP, so I saw several of bannings happen in real-time. Some were warranted due to threats, profanity, personal attacks, etc. Many were confusing. One example of a confusing ban was that of a long-time internet poster - CincyDawg. I've posted on 3 different forums with him and he is the most (sometimes frustratingly) benign posted I've ever encountered. Rarely replies to another post. Has never, as far as I can tell, threatened anyone, used profanity, personally attacked yet he was banned from ZZLP. The reasoning, as far as I can tell, was because his middle of the road-ness got other posters all wound up.

ZZLP, IMO, had a very specific view of how they wanted the forum to run....and it was with strict guardrails. People who were persistent with non-liberal views were often labeled as trolls and shown the door. Bringing up race (non-white) was "at your own risk", even if what you were saying was factually accurate. My last banning, I believe, was because I said (paraphrasing) "I'm all for ensuring equal rights for LGBTQ people but I don't think we should be 'celebrating' what is ultimately an abnormality any more than we should celebrate autism."
 
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