I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

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CFordUNC said:
I am SO SORRY to have offended your delicate sensibilities on the internet, TheChickenBrothers, and I hope that you can both somehow forgive me AND go on to live some semblance of a normal life. You have my most sincerest best wishes, thoughts, and prayers. You will overcome!
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Dude you're screaming as loud as everyone for people to stop screaming. Just shut the fuck up already.
 
SnoopRob said:
Not long-term, consistent ZZLP posters (at least in the time period I looked at).

It's so much easier to have strong opinions when you steadfastly refuse to look at any kind of data.
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Yep. So much easier to argue when you just make up the data. I don't find you particularly convincing at this point.
 
SnoopRob said:
Those weren't really ZZLP mod bans. Once you attract enough attention, some things are determined above our paygrade.
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So we're up to 6 out of how many "consistent, long-term" posters? We understand that you only contributed to two of them and did not make the final call.
 
ZenMode said:
I haven't been online since Friday, so I'm just seeing this thread and haven't read anything beyond the first page.

I posted on, and was banned from, ZZLP. I also simply read ZZLP, so I saw several of bannings happen in real-time. Some were warranted due to threats, profanity, personal attacks, etc. Many were confusing. One example of a confusing ban was that of a long-time internet poster - CincyDawg. I've posted on 3 different forums with him and he is the most (sometimes frustratingly) benign posted I've ever encountered. Rarely replies to another post. Has never, as far as I can tell, threatened anyone, used profanity, personally attacked yet he was banned from ZZLP. The reasoning, as far as I can tell, was because he got other posters all wound up.

ZZLP, IMO, had a very specific view of how they wanted the forum to run....and it was with strict guardrails. People who were persistent with non-liberal views were labeled as trolls and shown the door. Bringing up race (non-white) was "at your own risk", even if what you were saying was factually accurate. My last banning, I believe, was because I said (paraphrasing) "I'm all for ensuring equal rights for LGBTQ people but I don't think we should be 'celebrating' what is ultimately an abnormality any more than we should celebrate autism."
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Thanks for admitting for showing why you were banned for bigotry. I got no problem defending that one.

As far as CincyDawg, not a long time poster on the ZZLP and, as you show, was from a different board. Those folks aren't getting a particularly long leash.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
Dude you're screaming as loud as everyone for people to stop screaming. Just shut the fuck up already.
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Nah, I'm laughing at you, chief. Laughing my ass off at you, in fact. And having a hell of a jolly good time while doing it! You post like someone who got routinely stuffed into lockers and their head stuffed down toilets in high school. I'm actually legitimately hopeful that you and gt will continue your bitching and crying on this thread indefinitely because I'm a sadist.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
You're conflating two different issues. You're getting criticized for your approach to moderating long-term posters that you disagreed with versus the ones who you liked. Stop acting like every person you banned was some fly-in from a tar pit or from a different scout board.

Or don't. It's water under the bridge at this point. Keep lying to us if you want to, but I do wonder if you're still lying to yourself about treating everyone the same.
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JFC you are such a little bitch.
 
SnoopRob said:
Thanks for admitting for showing why you were banned for bigotry. I got no problem defending that one.

As far as CincyDawg, not a long time poster on the ZZLP and, as you show, was from a different board. Those folks aren't getting a particularly long leash.
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No, thank you for supporting my assertion. Biologically speaking, homosexuality IS abnormal. Mammals are designed to keep their species going. Saying that isn't bigotry.

Regarding Cincy....he did nothing wrong that I saw, beyond frustrate other posters who seemed to wield significant influence on moderation decisions.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
I have no recollection of when the ban of LPH happened as I went straight into a new account. It does not seem like it was 8 years ago but it may have been.
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If you're confirming the username is correct, I've already confirmed with IC that the ban date for that user is correct and it aligns with the last posts made under that username.

The problem with your "SnoopRob wronged me" whining is that I wasn't made a mod until January of 2017...so I wasn't even a mod when you got banned.

But, from what you've said, when you returned you posted for years while I was a mod and didn't encounter any other mod issues. (If that's wrong, you can tell me the name of your replacement username and we can see what the record shows.)

So it seems that you're complaining very vehemently about a ban that I had nothing, and could not have had anything, to do with.
 
ZenMode said:
I haven't been online since Friday, so I'm just seeing this thread and haven't read anything beyond the first page.

I posted on, and was banned from, ZZLP. I also simply read ZZLP, so I saw several of bannings happen in real-time. Some were warranted due to threats, profanity, personal attacks, etc. Many were confusing. One example of a confusing ban was that of a long-time internet poster - CincyDawg. I've posted on 3 different forums with him and he is the most (sometimes frustratingly) benign posted I've ever encountered. Rarely replies to another post. Has never, as far as I can tell, threatened anyone, used profanity, personally attacked yet he was banned from ZZLP. The reasoning, as far as I can tell, was because his middle of the road-ness got other posters all wound up.

ZZLP, IMO, had a very specific view of how they wanted the forum to run....and it was with strict guardrails. People who were persistent with non-liberal views were often labeled as trolls and shown the door. Bringing up race (non-white) was "at your own risk", even if what you were saying was factually accurate. My last banning, I believe, was because I said (paraphrasing) "I'm all for ensuring equal rights for LGBTQ people but I don't think we should be 'celebrating' what is ultimately an abnormality any more than we should celebrate autism."
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Not weighing in on the ban decision, but those words are repugnant on multiple different levels.
 
ZenMode said:
No, thank you for supporting my assertion. Biologically speaking, homosexuality IS abnormal. Mammals are designed to keep their species going. Saying that isn't bigotry.
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Humans are far more than just our biology...which is why your statements are bigotry.

I understand that you and I won't agree on this one, but I have no issue with banning you for that statement. I won't apologize for that ban because such bigotry made it well-deserved.
 
CFordUNC said:
Nah, I'm laughing at you, chief. Laughing my ass off at you, in fact. And having a hell of a jolly good time while doing it! You post like someone who got routinely stuffed into lockers and their head stuffed down toilets in high school. I'm actually legitimately hopeful that you and gt will continue your bitching and crying on this thread indefinitely because I'm a sadist.
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Funny because I think the subject of this thread moderated like the person you describe. I'm actually peretty certain of it.

I see you've now changed your mind. After incessant bitching about my observations of ZZLP moderating you now wish for me to continue with it? You will get your wish.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
So we're up to 6 out of how many "consistent, long-term" posters? We understand that you only contributed to two of them and did not make the final call.
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I'm not sure how many consistent, long-term posters there were on the ZZLP during that period...I'd guess a few dozen.

I'll claim ownership of the 4 I laid out - BA2007, Ovshinsky, lynch34, and gtyellowjckt - as the other 2 (RGB and OCS) were made above the ZZLP mods' level.

Of those, one was for repeated anti-LGBTQ bigotry (BA2007), the other 3 were for trolling with a 2 conservative, 1 liberal split.
 
SnoopRob said:
Humans are far more than just our biology...which is why your statements are bigotry.

I understand that you and I won't agree on this one, but I have no issue with banning you for that statement. I won't apologize for that ban because such bigotry made it well-deserved.
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In no way am I asking for an apology. ZZL, like any other site, can ban whoever they want for any reason they want. My point, as your responses have supported, is that it wasn't about being factual, it was about not expressing an opinion outside of liberal views, which tend to want to filter facts through a filter of feelings when deciding what position is ok to take.
 
ZenMode said:
I haven't been online since Friday, so I'm just seeing this thread and haven't read anything beyond the first page.

I posted on, and was banned from, ZZLP. I also simply read ZZLP, so I saw several of bannings happen in real-time. Some were warranted due to threats, profanity, personal attacks, etc. Many were confusing. One example of a confusing ban was that of a long-time internet poster - CincyDawg. I've posted on 3 different forums with him and he is the most (sometimes frustratingly) benign posted I've ever encountered. Rarely replies to another post. Has never, as far as I can tell, threatened anyone, used profanity, personally attacked yet he was banned from ZZLP. The reasoning, as far as I can tell, was because his middle of the road-ness got other posters all wound up.

ZZLP, IMO, had a very specific view of how they wanted the forum to run....and it was with strict guardrails. People who were persistent with non-liberal views were often labeled as trolls and shown the door. Bringing up race (non-white) was "at your own risk", even if what you were saying was factually accurate. My last banning, I believe, was because I said (paraphrasing) "I'm all for ensuring equal rights for LGBTQ people but I don't think we should be 'celebrating' what is ultimately an abnormality any more than we should celebrate autism."
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It would help if you would let people know what your name was on the zzl instead of hiding behind a new username, but to this specific point people do actually celebrate neurodiversity including autism and I’d like to see you tell a parent their autistic child is abnormal.
 
ZenMode said:
In no way am I asking for an apology. ZZL, any other site, can ban whoever they want for any reason they want. My point, as your responses have supported, is that it wasn't about being factual, it was about not expressing an opinion outside of the liberal views which tends to want to filter facts through a filter of feelings when deciding what position is ok to take.
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Yes, the ZZLP rules prohibited bigotry.

I also understand that's a partisan issue when one party bases its policies in a number of various bigotries.

If you want to whine that the ZZLP wasn't comfortable or accepting of outright bigotry, I'll gladly admit that you're correct. And I'm ok to stand behind the anti-bigotry rules we enforced there.
 
hedge said:
What was the info? Or can you point to the thread and page on IC where he posted it?
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On the premium board, so idiot screenshotted one of BWall's posts from the Caleb Wilson visit thread and posted it on BR. Evidently, that user had been taking screenshots for a while from premium and posting it on BR. BWall has been on the boards for a long time, and, and many people know his identity and his job. So, leaking the information publicly to what he was sharing could negatively affect his job.

There are also other idiots, like Wes Tucker on facebook, that take premium info and share it to others while claiming that they have "sources" and that the info they are sharing is from their sources when it 100% matches up with what is posted on the premium board and he posts it immediately after it's posted on premium.
 
SnoopRob said:
If you're confirming the username is correct, I've already confirmed with IC that the ban date for that user is correct and it aligns with the last posts made under that username.

The problem with your "SnoopRob wronged me" whining is that I wasn't made a mod until January of 2017...so I wasn't even a mod when you got banned.

But, from what you've said, when you returned you posted for years while I was a mod and didn't encounter any other mod issues. (If that's wrong, you can tell me the name of your replacement username and we can see what the record shows.)

So it seems that you're complaining very vehemently about a ban that I had nothing, and could not have had anything, to do with.
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What was the post in 2016 and was that a permaban? Because I'm pretty sure my permaban happened during the Lia Thomas controversy or possibly after the controversial Chappelle special and that was way after 2016. If I received any bans before that there was no communication about it and i probably didn't notice because I didn't post much anyway.

Regardless, I don't care how many bans of "long-term, consistent" posters there were because you all knew that's when everyone was looking. I was an infrequent poster and generally stayed under the radar and got banned with no communication whatsoever and when I DM'd a WTF letter I never got a response. And it never made the ban thread you admitted doesn't work correctly either so maybe that's not the best source of info for how many bans happened.
 
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