I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

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gtyellowjacket said:
I tend to agree with heel79. Just because someone posts on here that FEMA is shooting people driving up the mountain to bring aid or whatever, nobody believes it. The kooks aren't changing any minds. They're just looking like an idiot. Most people can sort that out.
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This is false. There are in fact people that believe in the conspiracy to such a degree that all federal and local agencies were forced to provide their own counters to the misinformation over social media.

Even politicians have had to interject.

Right-wing supporters are a danger to society. They’re tearing apart public trust with intent.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
He enjoyed the power of being a volunteer moderator a bit too much and now he's starting a J.D. Vance style glamour piece on a new board trying to hold on to his pathetic one and only claim to fame.

Ask you anything huh? I wasn't a frequent or well known poster but I had 2000+ posts over a 7 or 8 year period without a single warning of any kind. I got banned with no communication whatsover from anyone for a mild joke of the Chappelle variety. If it crossed a line so be it, but there should have been communication of some kind and at least a warning or temporary ban first. Why was that?

The bottom line is you are completely full of shit. You moderated like an insecure, power tripping little bitch and the moderating on the ZZLP board was completely arbitrary depending on how much insecurity you needed to overcompensate for on any given day. I easily came back under a different name and did the same thing I always did, mainly using the board as a news source and just commenting here and there. And the moderating always resembled something out of a sixth grade classroom when the teacher left the room and told the class nerd to "take names".

So I call bullshit on this little effort to save face on your shitty moderating. There was no rhyme or reason to it. It was at your whim, and I certainly hope anyone who enjoys that nonsense banning, splitting up fucking threads over bullshit, and locking threads up for no reason whatsover has a decent psychiatrist. You are fucking pathetic.
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I can tell I shouldn't expect to receive a Christmas card from the PollosHermanos household.

Were you banned under the username LosPollosHermanos? If so, it looks like the ban was made in August 2016, is that correct?
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
He enjoyed the power of being a volunteer moderator a bit too much and now he's starting a J.D. Vance style glamour piece on a new board trying to hold on to his pathetic one and only claim to fame.

Ask you anything huh? I wasn't a frequent or well known poster but I had 2000+ posts over a 7 or 8 year period without a single warning of any kind. I got banned with no communication whatsover from anyone for a mild joke of the Chappelle variety. If it crossed a line so be it, but there should have been communication of some kind and at least a warning or temporary ban first. Why was that?

The bottom line is you are completely full of shit. You moderated like an insecure, power tripping little bitch and the moderating on the ZZLP board was completely arbitrary depending on how much insecurity you needed to overcompensate for on any given day. I easily came back under a different name and did the same thing I always did, mainly using the board as a news source and just commenting here and there. And the moderating always resembled something out of a sixth grade classroom when the teacher left the room and told the class nerd to "take names".

So I call bullshit on this little effort to save face on your shitty moderating. There was no rhyme or reason to it. It was at your whim, and I certainly hope anyone who enjoys that nonsense banning, splitting up fucking threads over bullshit, and locking threads up for no reason whatsover has a decent psychiatrist. You are fucking pathetic.
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heel79 said:
Still looking for response to my question about commenting on threads you heavily moderated. I understand you suffered a massive head injury last night but when you get your senses back.
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I put a note in the thread that I was going to be out for the evening and that I'd pick back up when I got back to the board.

Well, now I'm back and I'm answering questions.

You should learn to have a little patience, especially when folks explain what they're doing. Fucking stupid and entitled is a really poor combination of traits.
 
heel79 said:
I think you need to separate the opinion page, which I liken to a message board, and what goes on page 1. For me there was a lot more leeway on what passed muster in the opinion page. When some thought is allowed and other isn't there is an interest danger related to the goalkeeper. I think we saw that with the pandemic as do much misinformation was out out early to be corrected later. For example if some conspiratorial nut wants to suggest in a letter to the editor that Helene was manmade to steal lithium rights or whatever, have at it. I don't feel inclined to protect you from your in stupidity. Folks can sort it out. Page 1 is a different animal
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Nuance between newspaper and message board is that in the paper the persons real name is printed beside the crazy opinion - unless it is someone on the editorial board (never understood that). On a message board it is an anonymous handle.
 
bumeister said:
I have nothing positive to contribute to this thread, other than to say that the ZZL Politics board helped me with my "arguing with assholes/idiots on the internet" compulsion. So, I guess, well done for attracting so many of them?
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NCK9 said:
Nuance between newspaper and message board is that in the paper the persons real name is printed beside the crazy opinion - unless it is someone on the editorial board (never understood that). On a message board it is an anonymous handle.
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And anonymity allows for multiple usernames so a handful of malign actors can appear as a growing consensus.
 
CallMeTyler said:
This is false. There are in fact people that believe in the conspiracy to such a degree that all federal and local agencies were forced to provide their own counters to the misinformation over social media.

Even politicians have had to interject.

Right-wing supporters are a danger to society. They’re tearing apart public trust with intent.
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Yes. I maybe misworded it. Absolutely there are people that believe that nonsense but how many people on here believe that nonsense?
 
Bullshit. We had many private messages that included Ben, where neither of you could tell me a rule that I broke.


SnoopRob said:
I don't think we let posters consistently break the rules without getting bans (or at least warnings).

I know you're likely to bring up the "personal insult" rule, but that rule was announced as relaxed on the ZZLP when it was formed. (We can certainly have a discussion around whether that was a good idea or not, but it wasn't applied unfairly.) But "both sides" were allowed to make insults as long as they didn't break any other rules. (One issue that conservatives had is that their insults sometimes broke rules because they used bigoted slurs.)

We also tried to apply small bans and work up to bigger bans. We gave out small bans to folks all across the political spectrum. Some folks learned from those bans and some didn't.

Finally, we also tried to apply some standard of a ratio to posters in handing out bans. If someone comes on the board every day and engages in discussion in a decent way, they probably got a little latitude when it came to the occasional post that might be over the line (we'd clean it up and give then a warning PM to knock it off). If you have a different poster that only shows up occasionally and most of their posts seemed design to merely attract attention and disrupt discussion, then they're going to catch a ban more quickly after they'd been previously warned. If you post largely every day and you only occasionally have a questionable post, you likely add value to the board and you get a little leeway. If you only show up when there's a major political issue in the news and the majority of your posts on the board are problematic, you're likely going to get sanctioned by the mods. A lot of the conservatives banned
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gtyellowjacket said:
Yes. I maybe misworded it. Absolutely there are people that believe that nonsense but how many people on here believe that nonsense?
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I couldn’t say, but allowing disinformation like “FEMA is shooting people” shouldn’t have a platform anywhere regardless of the audience or their ability to discern fact from fiction.

Would you not agree?
 
CallMeTyler said:
I couldn’t say, but allowing disinformation like “FEMA is shooting people” shouldn’t have a platform anywhere regardless of the audience or their ability to discern fact from fiction.

Would you not agree?
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No. I don't agree. Let him spout some nonsense, we all make fun of them, and we go on with our day not believing the nonsense.
 
bumeister said:
I have nothing positive to contribute to this thread, other than to say that the ZZL Politics board helped me with my "arguing with assholes/idiots on the internet" compulsion. So, I guess, well done for attracting so many of them?
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Well sure, but did you see what Richard Lindzen wrote about [fill in the blank]?
 
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