Iran Catch-All | IRAN WAR - Hormuz Strait closed again

[BlueSmoke]

So then Trump is going to force the Strait open? Wasn't it today that it was reported that Trump yelled for hours at aids when that jet was shot down? Sure he has the stomach for it.

 

[finesse]

Have no doubts that we can. Have very many doubts that the goal is worth the resources required to do it.

 

[lawtig02]

I might have the wrong island name. It might have been Farur. Either way, I've read that 90% of the drones used against ships in the Strait of Hormuz come from one specific island.

Surely you don't believe that the US lacks the military capability to force the strait open.

Did we have the military capability to destroy the Taliban and take actual control of Afghanistan? If so, why didn’t we?

 

[Ramrouser]

Well, if Iran is not going to bother with sending t nnegotiators then your claim here is a little bit flawed.

Who cares. Blockade costing them $500B per day so their typical “gamesmanship” / delays won’t work this time.

 

[lawtig02]

Who cares. Blockade costing them $500B per day so their typical “gamesmanship” / delays won’t work this time.

The blockade is costing them 1.5 times their annual GDP every day? You sure about that?

 

[Ramrouser]

500M. You get the idea.

 

[finesse]

500M. You get the idea.

We beg a million pardons for underestimating you.

 

[CFordUNC]

Hahahahahaha 500 million, 500 billion, it’s all the same!

 

[lawtig02]

500M. You get the idea.

The estimates are more like $400M. And we’ve been spending $1-2B per day on the war. You sure that’s a trade off you fiscal conservatives are willing to continue indefinitely?

 

[lawtig02]

Hahahahahaha 500 million, 500 billion, it’s all the same!

You get the idea.

 

[BlueSmoke]

The estimates are more like $400M. And we’ve been spending $1-2B per day on the war. You sure that’s a trade off you fiscal conservatives are willing to continue indefinitely?

Actually in oil terms its a lot less then that. They export around 1.8 million barrels a day. But as long as they are sanctioned they usually still sell but its for much less. So they more then likely are only getting 125 million a day for sanctioned oil.

So if we are going to boil Iran's motivations down to money..........a Strait toll booth might be better for them.

 

[finesse]

Actually in oil terms its a lot less then that. They export around 1.8 million barrels a day. But as long as they are sanctioned they usually still sell but its for much less. So they more then likely are only getting 125 million a day for sanctioned oil.

So if we are going to boil Iran's motivations down to money..........a Strait toll booth might be better for them.

Not to mention they get to stockpile the oil.

 

[Calheel]

Not to mention they get to stockpile the oil.

Up to a point. And only assuming it is not bombed. At some point, they have to shut down the pumps, which is expensive and difficult to start backup.

 

[lawtig02]

Actually in oil terms its a lot less then that. They export around 1.8 million barrels a day. But as long as they are sanctioned they usually still sell but its for much less. So they more then likely are only getting 125 million a day for sanctioned oil.

So if we are going to boil Iran's motivations down to money..........a Strait toll booth might be better for them.

Immensely.

 

[finesse]

Up to a point. And only assuming it is not bombed. At some point, they have to shut down the pumps, which is expensive and difficult to start backup.

Yes but the main point is that the impact is neither huge or immediate as it stands.

 

[uncgriff]

Well we just fired on and took control of Iranian cargo ship on the strait.

 

[Ramrouser]

The estimates are more like $400M. And we’ve been spending $1-2B per day on the war. You sure that’s a trade off you fiscal conservatives are willing to continue indefinitely?

Well worth the cost of defanging the world’s worst regime that’s been bullying the Midfle East for 47 years.

 

[lawtig02]

Well we just fired on and took control of Iranian cargo ship on the strait.

Good luck with those negotiations, JD!

 

[lawtig02]

It’s well worth the cost o

Well worth the cost of defanging the world’s worst regime that’s been bullying the Midfle East for 47 years.

Just like Saddam, right?

 

[Calheel]

It’s well worth the cost o

Well worth the cost of defanging the world’s worst regime that’s been bullying the Midfle East for 47 years.

Is Iran defanged?

Will you be OK with Trump giving Iran billions of dollars in a "peace deal" and letting Iran keep the uranium pending further talks? I'd like you to go on record now.