Iran Catch-All | US & ISRAEL ATTACK IRAN

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heelslegup said:
The idea of regime change IMO is a joke and a bad one at that.
Shahh Jr. Reza from Rockville, MD ain't happening.
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We tried regime change when the CIA overthrew the elected government of Iran in the 50s, replaced it with the Shah, who was an autocrat and hated by his own people, and then it boomeranged on us when the Shah was overthrown and we've been dealing with the consequences ever since. We approved the coup that overthrew President Diem of South Vietnam in 1963, which helped lead us into the Vietnam War disaster. Reagan tried to prop up the Lebanese government in 1982, and what we got out of it was a terrorist suicide attack that killed 241 Marines, after which conservative hero Reagan packed up and left the country to its fate. We invaded Iraq and did overthrow Hussein, and ended up bogged down in a war that cost nearly 5,000 American lives and tens of thousands of casualties and massive sums of money to no good effect, as Hussein was no longer a serious threat anyway. We overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan and ended up bogged down in an endless guerilla war that resulted with the return of the Taliban to power in 2021, so we got nothing out of fighting a two-decade long conflict. You would think at some point we might learn that "regime change" or propping up shaky or unpopular governments doesn't work, yet here we are again. This will end no better than any of these other attempts, imo, and any American lives lost in this conflict will be a crime against the men and women who are ordered to fight it.
 
duluoz said:
I barely remember the name and never interacted with him, and don’t recall anything about his posts. So, I’m not sure what you even mean.
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You referenced “morally and intellectually challenged” posters in retort to a post explicitly mentioning Krafty.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
We tried regime change when the CIA overthrew the elected government of Iran in the 50s, replaced it with the Shah, who was an autocrat and hated by his own people, and then it boomeranged on us when the Shah was overthrown and we've been dealing with the consequences ever since. We approved the coup that overthrew President Diem of South Vietnam in 1963, which helped lead us into the Vietnam War disaster. Reagan tried to prop up the Lebanese government in 1982, and what we got out of it was a terrorist suicide attack that killed 241 Marines, after which conservative hero Reagan packed up and left the country to its fate. We invaded Iraq and did overthrow Hussein, and ended up bogged down in a war that cost nearly 5,000 American lives and tens of thousands of casualties and massive sums of money to no good effect, as Hussein was no longer a serious threat anyway. We overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan and ended up bogged down in an endless guerilla war that resulted with the return of the Taliban to power in 2021, so we got nothing out of fighting a two-decade long conflict. You would think at some point we might learn that "regime change" or propping up shaky or unpopular governments doesn't work, yet here we are again. This will end no better than any of these other attempts, imo, and any American lives lost in this conflict will be a crime against the men and women who are ordered to fight it.
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That's most of Asia. Now do Central and South America. Don Bosco can help.
 
Couple of weeks ago, Iran did a brief partial Strait shutdown. A high risk gamble, but doing so would have the world wanting to end this war quickly and Trump freaking out over gas prices.
 
Callatoroy said:
going on 6 years and you guys are still being tortured by everything he says because you haven't learned to speak trump. If you took his comments literally after the first bombing then you are an idiot. Did you literally believe that one big bomb wiped out all of iran's nuclear development? Do you not have some perspective? When he made that comment I took it to mean we accomplished a few things.
- Hurt their immediate capability
- Sent a message that we were serious about them not getting a bomb and weren't afraid to act
- Get them more willing to negotiate on our terms.

Lol at anyone who takes everything he says literally and gets all bent out of shape saying everything is a lie. His entire adult public life has been nothing but metaphors. "greatest economy in history", "nobody can believe it", etc. Nobody but the far left takes that crap seriously. I think he knows it and does it to troll people like you.
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Lol anybody still supporting the clown.
 
pspsps said:
You referenced “morally and intellectually challenged” posters in retort to a post explicitly mentioning Krafty.
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That name didn’t even make it onto my radar for that post, or maybe ever, that I can recall. I was posting about callatroy or whatever his name is, in relation to “other conservative posters.” I haven’t come across one that seems to deserve the benefit of the doubt. If Krafty fits that bill, great.
 
lawtig02 said:
I just don’t see how Iran’s nuclear program could be completely destroyed without putting an enormous number of boots on the ground. Seems to me an Iran governed by IRGC hardliners after the US and Israel took out Iran’s spiritual leader would be MORE dangerous from a nuclear perspective.
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Certainly a possibility. I guess we won’t really know until all the dust settles.
 
Channel 12, and other Israeli sources, reporting Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s body has been found in the rubble .

Waiting on official US announcement.
 
Callatoroy said:
going on 6 years and you guys are still being tortured by everything he says because you haven't learned to speak trump. If you took his comments literally after the first bombing then you are an idiot. Did you literally believe that one big bomb wiped out all of iran's nuclear development? Do you not have some perspective? When he made that comment I took it to mean we accomplished a few things.
- Hurt their immediate capability
- Sent a message that we were serious about them not getting a bomb and weren't afraid to act
- Get them more willing to negotiate on our terms.

Lol at anyone who takes everything he says literally and gets all bent out of shape saying everything is a lie. His entire adult public life has been nothing but metaphors. "greatest economy in history", "nobody can believe it", etc. Nobody but the far left takes that crap seriously. I think he knows it and does it to troll people like you.
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That’s exactly the point. Democrats know he’s full of shit and nobody should take him seriously. Trump does this act on purpose so when he does say something outrageous or lies or whatever he can always go back and say, “the fake news tries to do “got ya’s” on me when obviously I was kidding”.

You and your ilk allow him to keep double speaking and bullshitting because “winning”.
 
Callatoroy said:
going on 6 years and you guys are still being tortured by everything he says because you haven't learned to speak trump. If you took his comments literally after the first bombing then you are an idiot. Did you literally believe that one big bomb wiped out all of iran's nuclear development? Do you not have some perspective? When he made that comment I took it to mean we accomplished a few things.
- Hurt their immediate capability
- Sent a message that we were serious about them not getting a bomb and weren't afraid to act
- Get them more willing to negotiate on our terms.

Lol at anyone who takes everything he says literally and gets all bent out of shape saying everything is a lie. His entire adult public life has been nothing but metaphors. "greatest economy in history", "nobody can believe it", etc. Nobody but the far left takes that crap seriously. I think he knows it and does it to troll people like you.
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You're an idiot. Learn to speak Trump? What is that shit?. He said obliterated. He lied. He always lies. And most people here thought he was lying then. You support a narcissistic lying sociopath who is a rapist and pedophile. Go to hell.
 
I was wondering when our two biggest Trumpian dick suckers would make their appearance with the #talkingpoints! Keep gobbling, fellas! We are going to lower those prices, secure that border, end those forever wars, and make America great again in no time!
 
StoneColdHeel said:
You're an idiot. Learn to speak Trump? What is that shit?. He said obliterated. He lied. He always lies. And most people here thought he was lying then. You support a narcissistic lying sociopath who is a rapist and pedophile. Go to hell.
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The benefit of claiming that “he can speak Trump” is that if Trump says something he likes and agrees with, he can state that Trump knows what he’s talking about. If Trump says something bad, it’s easy to dismiss. This way he gets to have it both ways.
 
This attack wasn’t about their nuclear program. It was about obliterating their leadership. We waited until their leadership was meeting in one room and now 40 of their top leaders are dead.

Greatest decapitation of a country’s leadership in history.
 
Ramrouser said:
This attack wasn’t about their nuclear program. It was about obliterating their leadership. We waited until their leadership was meeting in one room and now 40 of their top leaders are dead.

Greatest decapitation of a country’s leadership in history.
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Well, shit, that’s weird, because Trump himself said it was about obliterating their nuclear program! SURELY you aren’t implying that the Commander in Chief is wrong?
 
Ramrouser said:
This attack wasn’t about their nuclear program. It was about obliterating their leadership. We waited until their leadership was meeting in one room and now 40 of their top leaders are dead.
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Source?

Israel is apparently claiming 3 dead. 3 << 40
 
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