Is this why Dem’s Approval Rating Polls are so bad?

Zoo_View said:
Mostly agree.

“…….white European Christians…..” is too broad and inclusive.

For much U.S. history, Catholics weren’t considered “Christians” by many Americans. Signs declaring “No Irish” were common in parts of the U.S. Italians, Greeks, Poles, Slavs, Scandinavians, and more weren’t considered “white” by nativist Americans.

Nativist Americans in the 19th and 20th century weren’t including the Irish or Eastern Europeans or Southern Europeans as part of “Western” or “American” culture or heritage.
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Absolutely. My brave forefathers did not settle the northeastern coast of North Carolina so some filthy Papist could occupy the office of Vice President.
 
lawtig02 said:
Who, in turn, were the descendants of Zebulon Vance, Wade Hampton, Ben Tillman, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and other vocal and prominent Redeemers. It's a long and unbroken line that has sought to consolidate power among the few in order to exercise supremacy over the many.

This is why Schmitt's recent speech is so provocative to me. Other than in the 4chan fever swamps, it's been a while since we've heard someone channel so clearly the language of the Redeemers. Those guys ALWAYS disagreed with Lincoln's "proposition" that all men are created equal. They ALWAYS viewed absolute control of America as the birthright of the descendants of white European Christians. They just haven't said it as clearly in recent years as Schmitt did the other day.
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Fun fact: My wife is a direct descendent of Wade Hampton.
 
Ramrouser said:
Fun fact: My wife is a direct descendent of Wade Hampton.
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Wade Hampton III (1818–1902) was a Confederate general and later a governor of South Carolina who, by today's standards, was a racist and white supremacist. His racist beliefs were deeply intertwined with the "Lost Cause" ideology, which romanticized the Confederacy and defended white supremacy.

I'm guessing/ hoping she eschews the views of that part of her genealogy tree ?
 
Ramrouser said:
Most southerners don't have the views, ideology and racist beliefs of their 19th century ancestors.
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Yeah, they want those Confederate statues in front of their courthouses to honor the memory of their ancestors. Yet most of those courthouses do not have monuments to honor those killed in WWI or WWII, much less Korea or Vietnam. Just memorials to the Confederacy. Why do you reckon that is?
 
Ramrouser said:
Most southerners don't have the views, ideology and racist beliefs of their 19th century ancestors.
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Which southerners? The ones who didn't have ancestors here in the 19th century?

Most white southerners who can trace their lineage back that far have similar beliefs. "They are eating the dogs, they are eating the cats" would have made slaveowners blush with embarrassment.
 
Ramrouser said:
Most southerners don't have the views, ideology and racist beliefs of their 19th century ancestors.
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oh, please. it would not be that hard to repackage slavery in a way that would get 80+ percent approval from Trump voters. just watch Sorry to Bother You.

someone could run a poll tomorrow with the statements:

1) "My family's life would be easier if the government provided for me an unpaid in-home worker to take care of food, childcare, and housework with the expectation that I housed and fed them"

2) "The government should provide such workers for multi-child households"

and R voters would probably already be over 50% in agreement.
 
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