Israel assaults Iran, pounds Lebanon, Hezbollah

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ZenMode said:
Yep...bang virgins. That's one of the rewards for being a martyr.

There was a cease fire on October 6th.
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Why does Google not provide any links when I ask about the ceasefire on October 6th?

But there are reports of attacks and dead leaders this week?

I guess I missed the permanent cease fire.
 
UNCatTech said:
Why does Google not provide any links when I ask about the ceasefire on October 6th?

But there are reports of attacks and dead leaders this week?

I guess I missed the permanent cease fire.
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I don’t blame you for not following what he’s saying because he’s a dumbass.

He’s saying that before 10/7/23, there was a “ceasefire” in Gaza because Hamas had not yet attacked Israel. That is, Hamas and Palestinians are solely to blame for any actions Israel takes against them.

He’s just devoid of any facts on the history of the region or the conflict, and he’s admitted as much. He’s just here to derail and troll this thread about an actual genocide that’s taking place.

He hasn’t bothered to learn a single thing. He’s just rolled with whatever slop Israel throws out there to justify their continued extermination campaign against the Palestinian people.

To him, history started on October 7, 2023. He knows nothing of the events that took place before.
 
Paine said:
I don’t blame you for not following what he’s saying because he’s a dumbass.

He’s saying that before 10/7/23, there was a “ceasefire” in Gaza because Hamas had not yet attacked Israel. That is, Hamas and Palestinians are solely to blame for any actions Israel takes against them.

He’s just devoid of any facts on the history of the region or the conflict, and he’s admitted as much. He’s just here to derail and troll this thread about an actual genocide that’s taking place.

He hasn’t bothered to learn a single thing. He’s just rolled with whatever slop Israel throws out there to justify their continued extermination campaign against the Palestinian people.

To him, history started on October 7, 2023. He knows nothing of the events that took place before.
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Thanks. I didn't want to sound too ignorant so I tried to find information, but it wasn't there.

This helps.
 
UNCatTech said:
Thats a horrible analogy.

Ever notice that the problems with multiple countries have one common denominator? Isreal.
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There are probably a hundred countries or more that are currently dealing with the problem of Muslim extremists, AKA Jihadist and those worldwide problems have nothing to do with Jews or Israel.

Nobody should expect this problem to resolved in our lifetimes or the lifetimes of our children or their children.

Muslim extremists have publicly vowed to continue to try to wipe Israel off the map. War is terrible and ugly and the loss of civilian life is unfortunate, but Israel has no choice but two wage war. I would add, again, that this is not a problem that is unique to Israel. Most of the world is fighting to stop Muslim extremism.
 
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UNCatTech said:
Hell, you can't freely walk around Cone hospital in Greensboro when your father is in the ICU. No one anywhere is going to open the doors and give that kind of access.
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Right, which is why the claim that there is no bunker under the hospital because some journalists got a guided tour of an operating room is dubious.
 
superrific said:
All right. You're praising Israel and then admitting they don't give a fuck about Palestinian civilians. Like WTF dude
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I'm saying Israel is the better of the two (I guess three now, if we are counting Hezbollah) by a wide measure. This does not mean that Israel is blameless. But I'll take the flawed democracy over the jihadist terror triad all day long.
 
ZenMode said:
There are probably a hundred countries or more that are currently dealing with the problem of Muslim extremists, AKA Jihadist and those worldwide problems have nothing to do with Jews or Israel.

Nobody should expect this problem to resolved in our lifetimes or the lifetimes of our children or their children.

Muslim extremists have publicly vowed to continue to try to wipe Israel off the map. War is terrible and ugly and the loss of civilian life is unfortunate, but Israel has no choice but two wage war. I would add, again, that this is not a problem that is unique to Israel. Most of the world is fighting to stop Muslim extremism.
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More racist slop.
 
Paine said:
More racist slop.
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Islam is a religion, not a race. Ridding the world of Islamist terror would allow the 99.9% of other Muslims who don't subscribe to such extremism to live in peace. As it stands Muslims are often the victims of Islamist terror groups. But that is a digression.
 
ZenMode said:
Muslim extremism is a collection of ideas.
Muslim extremism isn't a race. There are people of all races, including Caucasian, who have left their life to go fight with Jihadists.
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Right wing religious extremism is not exclusive to Muslims. The fact that you focus on them is the racist part. We all know you’re talking about brown people.
 
Paine said:
Right wing religious extremism is not exclusive to Muslims. The fact that you focus on them is the racist part. We all know you’re talking about brown people.
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This is a discussion about Israel and the war in Gaza.
 
ZenMode said:
This is a discussion about Israel and the war in Gaza.
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Right, so why are you bringing up Islamism around the world?

Would you like to talk about how the conflict between Israel and Gaza started? Or do you still think history began on October 7, 2023?
 
Paine said:
Right, so why are you bringing up Islamism around the world?

Would you like to talk about how the conflict between Israel and Gaza started? Or do you still think history began on October 7, 2023?
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To emphasize that this isn't about Israel specifically. Muslim extremism is an issue for non-Jews and all races around the world. Hamas has publicly stated they want to wipe the state of Israel off the face of the Earth. That would be true if there were no land disputes. It would be true if Israel agreed to a cease fire. It would true if Israel returned every Hamas fighter they currently have imprisoned.

At some point this war will end and Hamas will begin planning their next attack. If not Hamas, it will be whatever new name the Jihadist in Gaza choose.
 
ZenMode said:
To emphasize that this isn't about Israel specifically. Muslim extremism is an issue for non-Jews and all races around the world. Hamas has publicly stated they want to wipe the state of Israel off the face of the Earth. That would be true if there were no land disputes. It would be true if Israel agreed to a cease fire. It would true if Israel returned every Hamas fighter they currently have imprisoned.

At some point this war will end and Hamas will begin planning their next attack. If not Hamas, it will be whatever new name the Jihadist in Gaza choose.
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I’ll take that as a yes.
 
ZenMode said:
Do you think that past disputes justified October 7th? Do you believe that there is something Israel could do to appease Hamas and allow Israel and Gaza to co-exist?
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Past “disputes” don’t justify October 7th, but they explain it.

Israel could stop bombing hospitals and children. They could work towards a two state solution or a one state solution.

They don’t want to. Netanyahu and Israel are the obstacle to peace in the region. Don’t listen to me, listen to the U.S. State Department officials who are quitting the agency over this.

Israel’s conduct is not making Israel safer, and it’s not making the world safer. It’s certainly not helping U.S. foreign policy goals.
 
Paine said:
Israel’s conduct is not making Israel safer, and it’s not making the world safer. It’s certainly not helping U.S. foreign policy goals.
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I’d argue the opposite. Sinwar is dead. Nasrallah is dead. Hezbollah is in shambles. Hamas is unable to conduct another 10/7 scale attack. Iran is too timid to do anything other than token and useless rocket attacks. Israel’s actions have been bloody for their enemies but they have worked.
 
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