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They did look awful. But have you seen some of the Palestinians released by Israel? They looked pretty messed up too.
 
BBC getting lots of flack and some praise for saying "there are hostages on both sides," referring to Palestinian women and children in Israelu jails
 
heelslegup said:
BBC getting lots of flack and some praise for saying "there are hostages on both sides," referring to Palestinian women and children in Israelu jails
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I'm glad they are saying it. I can't see much difference in what Israel is doing vs Hamas other than the number of hostages.
 
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Callatoroy said:
Rai, you want to answer the question since it was your post?
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I am not sure what kind of sniper/gun it was. I just know the child was shot, the ambulance transporting him was detained, and his father was held in custody for an hour. Sadly, the child died a few days later in the hospital.

aje.io

Hamas names more captives to be freed but says Israel violating truce

Gaza officials say 183 Palestinians to be released in latest swap after announcement delayed amid tensions over aid.
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RaiGuy said:
I am not sure what kind of sniper/gun it was. I just know the child was shot, the ambulance transporting him was detained, and his father was held in custody for an hour. Sadly, the child died a few days later in the hospital.

aje.io

Hamas names more captives to be freed but says Israel violating truce

Gaza officials say 183 Palestinians to be released in latest swap after announcement delayed amid tensions over aid.
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There is clearly blood visible on the back of the boy's shirt in his lumbar region. Zero excuse for that behavior by the IDF.
 
apnews.com

Trump says ceasefire deal should be canceled if Hamas doesn’t release all hostages by Saturday

President Donald Trump says that a precarious ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas should be canceled if Hamas doesn’t release all the remaining hostages it is holding in Gaza by midday on Saturday — though he also acknowledged that such a decision would be up to Israel.
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President Donald Trump said Palestinians in Gaza would not have a right to return under his plan for U.S. “ownership” of the war-torn territory, contradicting other officials in his administration who have sought to argue Trump was only calling for the temporary relocation of its population.

Less than a week after he floated his plan for the U.S. to take control of Gaza and turn it in “the Riviera of the Middle East,” Trump, in an interview with FOX News’ Bret Baier that was set to air on Monday, said “No, they wouldn’t” when asked if Palestinians in Gaza would have a right to return to the territory. It comes as he has ramped up pressure on Arab states, especially U.S. allies Jordan and Egypt, to take in Palestinians from Gaza, who claim the territory as part of a future homeland.

“We’ll build safe communities, a little bit away from where they are, where all of this danger is,” Trump said. “In the meantime, I would own this. Think of it as a real estate development for the future. It would be a beautiful piece of land. No big money spent.”
 
"...Hamas on Monday said it would delay “until further notice” the release of three Israeli hostages set for Saturday, in what would be the first major setback for the ceasefire and hostage release deal. Hamas cited recent Israeli shelling and gunfire in Gaza, along with insufficient flow of aid, in a statement announcing the move, which came as Trump’s remarks about Gaza’s future injected uncertainty into negotiations.

Hamas said it remained committed to the ceasefire agreement’s terms. Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said that a delay in releases would represent a “complete violation” of the agreement, and that the Israel’s military would assume its “highest level of readiness.” ..."

 
Callatoroy said:
Rai, you want to answer the question since it was your post?
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Take a step back, man. Forget the derangement syndromes or FAFOs or any of that, and think about who you have become.

Presented with video of a child being shot in the back, in agony on the ground calling for his mother, your response is that you don't see blood so . . . (you didn't finish your thought but I think we have a sense of where it's going).

Is that who you want to be? Is that your best self? Just pure callousness at the sight of a young child being murdered in cold blood for no reason? I mean, what the fuck are you doing to yourself?
 
This cycle will continue to happen until 1) there is a multi-national peacekeeping force with a robust mission statement stgationed in WB and GAza and 2) there is an independent Palestinian state in WB and Gaza with concordant recognition of Israel by Saudi Arabia etc.

Saudi Arabia has been offering this deal to Israel since around 2003. But nothing is agreed to until all are agreed to, KSA is not going to recognize Israel without the simultaneous creation of a Palestinian state in WB and Gaza
 
heelslegup said:
This cycle will continue to happen until 1) there is a multi-national peacekeeping force with a robust mission statement stgationed in WB and GAza and 2) there is an independent Palestinian state in WB and Gaza with concordant recognition of Israel by Saudi Arabia etc.

Saudi Arabia has been offering this deal to Israel since around 2003. But nothing is agreed to until all are agreed to, KSA is not going to recognize Israel without the simultaneous creation of a Palestinian state in WB and Gaza
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the cycle will continue until the Palestines have a viable state. I fear even then, it will continue, but there's zero chance of it not continuing without a state for them.
 
nycfan said:
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I find it interesting how they word them all as Palestinian “prisoners” being released when the majority were never charged with anything or under fake charges. Also, many of them are minors as well. They were hostages too, plain and simple. Also, what they leave out is that Israel releases x amount, and then rounds up x amount from the West Bank. These “prisoners” are tortured and kept in the worst conditions.
 
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