Israel launches attack on Iran | US bombs Iran nuke sites

I do not want anyone to mistake me for someone who doesn’t want Iran‘s ability to create nuclear weapons permanently obliterated, because I absolutely do, and I absolutely would wholeheartedly support the Trump administration doing so in a way that is actually strategically thought out and in collaboration with our other allies, but man, it is not looking like Saturday’s strike was successful to that end, and in fact may prove to be ultimately counterproductive.
 
CFordUNC said:
I do not want anyone to mistake me for someone who doesn’t want Iran‘s ability to create nuclear weapons permanently obliterated, because I absolutely do, and I absolutely would wholeheartedly support the Trump administration doing so in a way that is actually strategically thought out and in collaboration with our other allies, but man, it is not looking like Saturday’s strike was successful to that end, and in fact may prove to be ultimately counterproductive.
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It's like if you swap at a wasp, but you miss. Now it's pissed and will try to sting you. It might not have the ability to kill you, but it can leave a mark.
 
hedge said:
An anthropologist friend of mine contends that far from being the troglodytic brutes that Neanderthals are often depicted as, they were actually the sensitive artistic types that got wiped out by the more thuggish and aggressive Homo sapiens and naturally I agree with her. Basically Homo sapiens were the Magas of the Late Pleistocene era. Or maybe I should say the MANGA's (make the Neander Valley great again)...
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mynameisbond said:
At least there was no Signal chat about the bombers launching from Missouri.
Why is there no news coverage about Trump's decision to withdraw from the Obama agreement with Iran to monitor their production with UN inspections? Seems relevant to discussions about why this launch was necessary.
My main concern at this point is the safety of our 40,000 troops at bases in the region.
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There were still IAEA, which reports to the UN, requirement they suspended as they got closer to the bomb

chatgpt:

Since 2021, Iran has violated the following key IAEA-related commitments:
TypeCommitmentStatus
LegalAdditional ProtocolSuspended
LegalModified Code 3.1Suspended
JCPOACameras & online monitoringRemoved or restricted
SafeguardsSite declarationsIncomplete
InspectionsInspector access & designationsSeverely limited
TransparencySurveillance data sharingRefused
VerificationEnrichment monitoringInadequate
By 2024–2025, the IAEA concluded that it could no longer verify the peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear program due to loss of oversight and incomplete cooperation.
 
nycfan said:


Son of the Shah. Not a great face of regime change …
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Add in the fact that the Pahlavi “Dynasty” has only existed since 1925 when Reza Khan helped lead a British organized coup. Reza Khan commanded the 3-4,000 man Persian Cossack Brigade - a force the British helped create.
 
chrissteel said:
There were still IAEA, which reports to the UN, requirement they suspended as they got closer to the bomb

chatgpt:

Since 2021, Iran has violated the following key IAEA-related commitments:
TypeCommitmentStatus
LegalAdditional ProtocolSuspended
LegalModified Code 3.1Suspended
JCPOACameras & online monitoringRemoved or restricted
SafeguardsSite declarationsIncomplete
InspectionsInspector access & designationsSeverely limited
TransparencySurveillance data sharingRefused
VerificationEnrichment monitoringInadequate
By 2024–2025, the IAEA concluded that it could no longer verify the peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear program due to loss of oversight and incomplete cooperation.
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So strange. It’s almost as if Trump dumping the JCPOA led to Iran disregarding it. No one could have predicted such a turn of events.
 
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