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Israel launches attack on Iran

There’s nothing to anti-trump here. He whiffed.
Trump is a buffoon and there’s no negotiating with people who don’t want to be negotiated with. It’s similar to negotiating with Hamas on the hostage release. They don’t want a different result so negotiating is just a word they use to buy more time.
 
Did we fund Bin Laden on 9/10/11?

In the 1980’s, Bin Laden and the Taliban fought the Soviets.

On 10/6/23, who did Hamas fight? Why did Bibi help bankroll Hamas?
That's already been well-established. He helped bankroll Hamas 1) to keep the peace as he didn't think that Hamas would turn on Israel the way it did on 10/7 and 2) to create division amongst the Palestinians. That's geopolitics. Are you implying that Israel attacked itself on 10/7? Not sure what path you are going down here. Seems a bit conspiracy-ish.
 
Both things can be true, though. We can agree that the world will align with Israel about this, while also remaining concerned about how Trump has the potential to escalate the crisis with his rhetoric and decision making.
The best outcome here is:

1. Israel is successful in harming Iran’s nuclear program.
2. Iran’s response against Israel is effective enough to give them a “win” while not doing any real harm to Israel.
3. Iran’s inevitable response against the US is ineffective.
4. Trump keeps his mouth shut and lets things die down naturally over the next few months.

I’m not at all confident all that will happen, but I’ll be hoping it does.
 
The best outcome here is:

1. Israel is successful in harming Iran’s nuclear program.
2. Iran’s response against Israel is effective enough to give them a “win” while not doing any real harm to Israel.
3. Iran’s inevitable response against the US is ineffective.
4. Trump keeps his mouth shut and lets things die down naturally over the next few months.

I’m not at all confident all that will happen, but I’ll be hoping it does.
What’s crazy is the easiest thing to control is #4 and that’s the least likely.
 
I suspect that the nations with the money will start or expand or accelerate their own nuclear weapon programs.

Indeed, but that die was already thrown with our solipsistic policy in Ukraine. In fact, you can go back to the Axis of Evil speech twenty years ago.
 
The majority of the world will align with Israel on this (Gaza is completely different). Democrats would be wise to not try to be anti-Trump on this.
Maybe " the world will align with Israel on this " but this action seems a bit fishy given that our Middle East envoy was going to fly to London today to continue efforts for a diplomatic resolution to this.

An Israeli newspaper has reported that the U.S. colluded with Israel to pretend an interest in continuing efforts to seek a diplomatic resolution in order to set up a surprise attack on Iran yesterday.

The only alternative to this report is that Bibi gave a middle finger to Trump's diplomatic efforts this weekend and pretty much let Trump know he has no influence in this situation.

So which is it ... collusion or humiliation ?
 
Maybe " the world will align with Israel on this " but this action seems a bit fishy given that our Middle East envoy was going to fly to London today to continue efforts for a diplomatic resolution to this.

An Israeli newspaper has reported that the U.S. colluded with Israel to pretend an interest in continuing efforts to seek a diplomatic resolution in order to set up a surprise attack on Iran yesterday.

The only alternative to this report is that Bibi gave a middle finger to Trump's diplomatic efforts this weekend and pretty much let Trump know he has no influence in this situation.

So which is it ... collusion or humiliation ?
It doesn’t really matter now.
 
If, and I repeat, IF the entire General staff has been wiped out, Khameni is on borrowed time.
I don’t know much about Iranian governmental structure. Is this saying most of the military generals got wiped out or is this the equivalent of the President’s cabinet getting wiped out here.
 
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