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I have a feeling this is going to be overturned because it's not what actual innocence means, or at least not what it is supposed to mean. By the district court's logic, every change in the criminal law would have retroactive effect and the Supreme Court has held otherwise. Retroactivity requires a different analysis. The court didn't address that at all, at least not in my skim.

That said, Howell is a really good judge so I'm at least somewhat reluctant to be too critical.
 
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Judge declines to postpone Steve Bannon's trial on 'We Build the Wall' fraud charges

A New York judge has declined to immediately postpone Steve Bannon's Dec. 9 trial on charges that he defrauded supporters of the "We Build the Wall" fundraiser.
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Judge declines to postpone Steve Bannon's trial on 'We Build the Wall' fraud charges​

The staunch Trump ally is fresh out of prison on contempt of Congress charges.

"...Bannon never faced federal charges because he was pardoned by then-President Trump on Trump's final night in office during his first term. The pardon only applied to the federal case and did not preclude state charges.

Bannon had told donors to the We Build the Wall campaign that their money would 100% go toward building a wall along the U.S. southern border, while prosecutors say some of the $15 million in donations was secretly funneled to himself and the campaign's president, Brian Kolfage. ..."
 
nycfan said:
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That judge better prepare to be disappointed and frustrated. On the afternoon of January 21, 2025, Donald John Trump, the once and future President of the United States is going to pardon any and everyone in the entire United States if he believes such a pardon will "own the libs." The merits of the matter are irrelevant. The only consideration will be whether it "owns the libs."

If someone was alive and in prison for raping Eleanor Roosevelt many decades ago, then St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago would pardon him on the grounds that it "owned the libs."

Sidenote: I can't remember the movie, but some movie from way back had a line that was something like, "To hear the liberals squawk you'd think someone had raped Eleanor Roosevelt."
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Honestly does sound like those two guys were overcharged. Four years in jail and no violence? That seems like too much. Save the prison space for the guys that broke into the Capitol and/or assaulted cops.
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I have a hard time keeping up.. Where they "masterminds" of the killing and rioting?
 
mpaer said:
I have a hard time keeping up.. Where they "masterminds" of the killing and rioting?
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Doesn't sound like it. According to prosecutors they were telling people where the offices were and they dropped a couple smoke bombs. I don't believe that's no punishment and maybe even jail time but 4 years sounds like too much.

If they had been crashing through doors or windows, 4 years sounds about right. If they were fighting cops, 4 years doesn't sound like enough.
 
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