California supports itself and the welfare states... you particularly should be thankful rather than trying to hate on your sponsor.
You literally have no idea of that last assertion. My uncle has Parkinson's with Lewy Dimentia. There are some days when he has no idea what is going on AT ALL. There are other days when he is as lucid as could possibly be for the entire day or days at a stretch.
Au contraire. My two states, Georgia and Florida, are also "donor" states - sending more tax revenue to the US than they receive in benefits. According to the April 2025 publication by USAFACTS, Georgia has a +14B surplus with Florida having a +17B surplus.
In what world do you live in that you are not extreme MAGA? The fact alone that you want/receive a lot of Trump swag should be enough to tip you off that you're extreme MAGA. And let's not even get into the fact that you see yourself as some Trump whisperer who can always explain away all the stupid and crazy shit Trump says and does by telling us all your interpretations of what he really means/thinks.
In what world do you live in where you can't tell if a poster is obviously joking about receiving Trump swag as a Christmas gifts from family members? I was making fun of all the "Trump watches" and "Trump sneakers" that are being offered for sale.
Wrong.
rockinst.org
That failing movie industry, according to trump, in Georgia probably helps.
usafacts.org
And lots of military bases.
Balance of Payments Portal | Rockefeller Institute of Government
Explore the balance of payments between states and the Federal government.
The Rockefeller chart is extremely detailed and goes back a decade. I didn't realize that NC was one of the top recipient states. #4 in terms of balance of payments (that is, fourth best in mooching). Probably FEMA plus NSF/NIH?
But it's only considering "federal obligations to the states," which is not at all the same thing as federal outlays per state.Here is the article Ramrouser is referring to if anyone is interested. USAfacts is Steve Balmer's (Microsoft) site:
Which states contribute the most and least to federal revenue? | USAFacts
In 2023, New Yorkers paid about $89 billion more to the federal government than they received.
Which are not, as it happens, included in the usafacts charts being mook-bandied
Yeah. I would assume that has something to do with it. I'm sure another difference between the two different sources are how they account for federal outlays. How do you account for a sailor's salary when he is on a ship in the South Pacific that is based in Japan? How do you account for a check that goes to a company who is based in Delaware when the work was done in Iowa? I suspect there are a million little things like that which would tend to move the numbers around pretty dramatically depending on how you classify these things.
It's a pointless metric anyway for the purposes people tend to use it. I live in a deeply giver county in a taker state. I'd a million times over rather live here than in any of the taker counties in this state. I like visiting those places but they're takers for a reason, and those reasons make me not particularly interested in living there.
I understand why they went with the electoral college system but it does need to be changed and there's not a realistic mechanism for making it happen in today's political climate. It needs to get 3/4 of the state legislatures and no state is going to realistically vote for less representation. So you need to get 38 States to vote for a different way to allocate representation, that would indeed favor them, but for most of them, would not favor their political party. Very frustrating.
That's irrelevant when you're comparing economies. Saying that Arizona doesn't pay as much in tax as it gets in benefits isn't a moral indictment of the state, let alone its people. It just makes clear where the country's wealth is produced. Which also isn't morally superior, for a number of reasons.
