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mynameisbond said:
Until there is some actual evidence otherwise, this loss belongs to the democrats who allowed Biden to run again and stay in the race until near the end. Harris didn’t have a legitimate chance under the circumstances and made an admirable effort.
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No, it very much does not belong to them. It belongs first and foremost to the Supreme Court. If not for SCOTUS Trump would be in jail. They weren't about to let that happen. Oh, they also let him run even though he was an insurrectionist.

Second, Trump was very clear who he was. He couldn't possibly have more clearly signaled what he was going to do. That's what people voted for. Springfield OH watched as Vance and Trump set fire to their community, and promised to deport the people who brought an economic renaissance. After the Haitians are gone, Springfield is going to be a wasteland. And they voted for Trump with 64%. It was never about economics, and we're going to see a lot of evidence of that.

It was never about Biden. It was never about anything other than an orgy of hate from the moment Trump announced his candidacy in 2016.
 
nycfan said:
Yes, I’m planning to check out Blue Sky when I have time but to date every time I try an alternative it has had serious echo chamber or other participation limits.

Right now, if you know how to use the Following tab process and are good with the search tricks on Xitter, it is still the easiest place to find the most media and sports reporting in one place. But the For You tab is garbage for sure.
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superrific said:
No, it very much does not belong to them. It belongs first and foremost to the Supreme Court. If not for SCOTUS Trump would be in jail. They weren't about to let that happen. Oh, they also let him run even though he was an insurrectionist.

Second, Trump was very clear who he was. He couldn't possibly have more clearly signaled what he was going to do. That's what people voted for. Springfield OH watched as Vance and Trump set fire to their community, and promised to deport the people who brought an economic renaissance. After the Haitians are gone, Springfield is going to be a wasteland. And they voted for Trump with 64%. It was never about economics, and we're going to see a lot of evidence of that.

It was never about Biden. It was never about anything other than an orgy of hate from the moment Trump announced his candidacy in 2016.
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Impeachments, weak Mueller, late prosecutions, Jan 6, running after Jan 6. whether there was some systematic involvement or we're just weak, stupid people we allowed a clear criminal, extremely clearly you pointed out, to abuse our system breaking norms(and laws) while also leaning on norms/laws when they benefitted him...attack our country and run for president again and because he's a good salesman/cult leader, infect our people with tried/tried methods from the worst leaders of our time. And saying that none of these systems were going to work to stop him, the Dems were going to roll up with a weak Biden...the Kamala after white women showed us they won't vote for a woman. They let party politics get in the way of common sense and really looking at where this country is right now... after everything else clearly failed.

This is terrible and I can't believe they are still asking me for money. I think Harris ran a pretty good campaign, but this thing was doomed from the start and all because of party delusion. The systems were never going to protect us from Trump.
 
thebruinbleedstarheelblue said:
Impeachments, weak Mueller, late prosecutions, Jan 6, running after Jan 6. whether there was some systematic involvement or we're just weak, stupid people we allowed a clear criminal, extremely clearly you pointed out, to abuse our system breaking norms(and laws) while also leaning on norms/laws when they benefitted him...attack our country and run for president again and because he's a good salesman/cult leader, infect our people with tried/tried methods from the worst leaders of our time. And saying that none of these systems were going to work to stop him, the Dems were going to roll up with a weak Biden...the Kamala after white women showed us they won't vote for a woman. They let party politics get in the way of common sense and really looking at where this country is right now... after everything else clearly failed.

This is terrible and I can't believe they are still asking me for money. I think Harris ran a pretty good campaign, but this thing was doomed from the start and all because of party delusion. The systems were never going to protect us from Trump.
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Whatever the amalgam of causes, the Dem party needs to pay better attention to the issues that the majority of voters felt were important. Kamala didn't have enough time to adequately put together a platform that would convince voters she had real solutions to offer. Trump's strategy was to clothe himself as the candidate of change. There is plenty of dislike for him but unless we want a dose of Vance in 2029, the party needs an appealing candidate with sensible alternatives to Trump's scorched earth policies.
 
thebruinbleedstarheelblue said:
Impeachments, weak Mueller, late prosecutions, Jan 6, running after Jan 6. whether there was some systematic involvement or we're just weak, stupid people we allowed a clear criminal, extremely clearly you pointed out, to abuse our system breaking norms(and laws) while also leaning on norms/laws when they benefitted him...attack our country and run for president again and because he's a good salesman/cult leader, infect our people with tried/tried methods from the worst leaders of our time. And saying that none of these systems were going to work to stop him, the Dems were going to roll up with a weak Biden...the Kamala after white women showed us they won't vote for a woman. They let party politics get in the way of common sense and really looking at where this country is right now... after everything else clearly failed.

This is terrible and I can't believe they are still asking me for money. I think Harris ran a pretty good campaign, but this thing was doomed from the start and all because of party delusion. The systems were never going to protect us from Trump.
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Didnt white women turn out to vote for Hilary at about the percentage as they did for Kamala? Can it not be simply because they see a bigger picture without having to participate in identity politics? Do you believe had Biden not chosen Harris as his running mate that he would have still won the 2020 election? What if he had chosen a white man or white woman? Do you feel the results would have been the same?
 
Badbehavior1015 said:
Can it not be simply because they see a bigger picture without having to participate in identity politics?
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Again, the GOP is nothing but identity politics. That's why Trump was driving around in a garbage truck. MAGA is, in essence, nothing but identity politics. There's certainly no policy there, and to the extent there is, it's wildly unpopular.

Plus, we see that identity politics in full display here by every MAGA poster. It's a non-stop litany of "you bad liberals don't respect me and that's why we vote for Trump." At least a dozen times, have I seen people say exactly that: "keep it up, liberals, this is why we vote for Trump." That is literally identity politics.

MAGA is all about affinity. People who like Trump do so because they identify with him. That's why he says things like, "I will be your retribution." What exactly do you think that is?

Identity politics isn't just something that minorities do. Identity politics was literally invented by white people. What do you think Jim Crow was? Why do you think Southerners flipped from Dem to Pub in response to the Civil Rights Act? It's all identity politics, all the time.
 
superrific said:
Again, the GOP is nothing but identity politics. That's why Trump was driving around in a garbage truck. MAGA is, in essence, nothing but identity politics. There's certainly no policy there, and to the extent there is, it's wildly unpopular.

Plus, we see that identity politics in full display here by every MAGA poster. It's a non-stop litany of "you bad liberals don't respect me and that's why we vote for Trump." At least a dozen times, have I seen people say exactly that: "keep it up, liberals, this is why we vote for Trump." That is literally identity politics.

MAGA is all about affinity. People who like Trump do so because they identify with him. That's why he says things like, "I will be your retribution." What exactly do you think that is?

Identity politics isn't just something that minorities do. Identity politics was literally invented by white people. What do you think Jim Crow was? Why do you think Southerners flipped from Dem to Pub in response to the Civil Rights Act? It's all identity politics, all the time.
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I disagree. Identity politics means supporting someone based on race, gender, religion, social or cultural identity. The fear mongering the liberal media expresses is such a mess. Sunny Hostin said her daughter will now have less rights than she has. How did she come to that belief? I saw a black lady on a tik tok video where she was crying, saying she was going to 'wake up and be a slave'.

As I previously stated, look at the voting numbers. Someone said earlier that white women wont vote for a women. That's exactly what I'm referring to. Identity politics. IMO, if you look at the voting number, democrats overwhelming voted Kamala, especially black women. Black women voted 92% for Kamala. Do you believe that they voted for her because of her race and/or gender or because of her policies? If Black women voted for Kamala simply because of her race, then fine. I dont care. But to say conservatives use it because white women are not voting for a women is not being intellectually honest.
 
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