Mass Deportation and Immigration Catch-All | CIA using drones to spy on Mexican drug cartels

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“… Some current and former officials say designating cartels as terrorist groups could potentially lay the groundwork for direct US strikes against the cartels and their drug labs in Mexico. …”
 

Trump administration expected to issue public health order to restrict immigration at US-Mexico border​


"The Trump administration is expected to issue a public health order as soon as this week labeling migrants at the US southern border as risks for spreading diseases, marking an escalation in the president’s effort to severely restrict immigration, according to three sources familiar with the discussions.

The public health order, which hasn’t yet been finalized, is a call back to one put in place in 2020 during Donald Trump’s first administration based on the coronavirus pandemic. That order sealed off the border to asylum seekers, drawing fierce criticism from immigrant advocates, and fueled repeat crossings that prompted pushback from some Homeland Security officials.

Discussions for the new order have referenced measles and tuberculosis, according to multiple sources. It would be the latest in a string of moves to toughen the administration’s posture on the US-Mexico border even as crossings continue to plummet. ..."
 
"The Trump administration is expected to issue a public health order as soon as this week labeling migrants at the US southern border as risks for spreading diseases,

Shit, RFK ,jr. is doing that and he got a Cabinet position.
 
Note that mere designation as a terrorist organization does not actually make them "eligible" for drone strikes, whatever that's supposed to mean.
 
nycfan said:




They are going to launch strikes in Mexico and Central and South America, aren’t they?
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If mexico won't do anything about the cartels, trump said during the campaign he would. I'm just very interested to see that if he did attack a cartel with a drone, how many on here would be sympathetic to the cartel.
 
Callatoroy said:
If mexico won't do anything about the cartels, trump said during the campaign he would. I'm just very interested to see that if he did attack a cartel with a drone, how many on here would be sympathetic to the cartel.
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People claiming Trump acted illegally does not mean they are “sympathetic to the cartel” although that’s the kind of bullshit right wing news loves.

“If you don’t support Trump mounting attacks on our neighbors and allies you support drug cartels.” Such bullshit.
 
I wouldn't sympathize with them at all. If he hadn't cleared it with that country, I'd be pretty pissed at us for violating other nations' sovereignty. I doubt that the short term gain could possibly be worth the long term damage to our relationship with them.

One of the problems with all these short term wins is that they aren't worth the battle damage. Look at having to rehire the nuclear people or the bird flu people. You've sown distrust and dissatisfaction and the people that you lost are likely your best people because they are going to catch on somewhere else sooner.

That might not be so bad for some jobs. The party loyalty thing happens. But a lot of these jobs are pretty apolitical and actually need skills.
 
Callatoroy said:
If mexico won't do anything about the cartels, trump said during the campaign he would. I'm just very interested to see that if he did attack a cartel with a drone, how many on here would be sympathetic to the cartel.
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I could care less about the well-being of the cartels but am concerned about launching attacks inside the sovereign borders of our allies in the region without their consent or cooperation. What if Mexico or Canada decides to start bombing gun manufacturers in the United States because we do little to nothing to stop them from supplying weapons to the cartels? Sure, that seems unlikely but using force in the region without cooperation from the governments of the applicable countries has typically been a bad approach to U.S. foreign policy.
 
Callatoroy said:
If mexico won't do anything about the cartels, trump said during the campaign he would. I'm just very interested to see that if he did attack a cartel with a drone, how many on here would be sympathetic to the cartel.
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Nobody. The reason to be terrified of that complete idiocy isn't because we are sympathetic to cartels. It's because a) those types of strikes more often that not hit innocents and miss the supposed targets; and b) it would hurt Americans as it would put an enemy on our southern border. If Trump attacks cartels inside Mexico, it would almost certainly mean the end of Mexican cooperation on immigration and drug enforcement. It would undoubtedly make the problem worse, not better.

And if you don't believe me, read about the Medellin cartel. Or read this link

 
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