Mass Deportation - Planning underway— Tom Homan to be “Border Czar”

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CallMeTyler said:
And maybe you’re interested in educating yourself on this topic a bit more.

Definitely want to avoid those “dummy” labels.

www.constructiondive.com

A fifth of construction workers lack permanent legal status. Can the next president change that?

Illegal immigration has dominated the headlines during this election season, but building pros are calling for help to get skilled workers to jobsites.
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I don’t have to…I don’t go by news reports I work in the business…I know what is going on…
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
The thing that gets me is the animosity towards the educated elites. Plowing a field or even managing a farm budget are admirable endeavors but they don’t give you insight into how macroeconomics works. If you can’t bother to understand who pays tariffs, how are you expecting to understand the full economic consequences of those tariffs?

We used to admire and look up to people who are experts in their field. Not saying we all agreed with everything like those who pushed trickle down economics but in general the public had respect for education. There was always those who didn’t but they had no political sway.
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The problem comes when the educated elites have no humility or possess such arrogance that they try to tell you what is best for you rather than just educate or disseminate information.
 
Tar1978Heel said:
I don’t have to…I don’t go by news reports I work in the business…I know what is going on…
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Having some knowledge, either directly or tangentially, doesn’t grant you expertise. Choosing to ignore the research that examines the broader industry is exactly why we are here.

Are you suggesting illegals don’t comprise a quarter of the workforce? If so, how did you determine that statement was false?
 
CallMeTyler said:
I’d love to empathize with folks who will struggle when the cost of goods increases but again, they asked for these policies.

Between labor shortages and tariffs, it should be a lot of fun.
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Not me. I’m gonna openly laugh at them. They will be quite literally getting what they want. Hell, in some respects, I’ll be pissed if he *doesn’t* follow through. Trump didn’t even try to hide that his policies would be devastating economically for the middle and working classes- he simply had Elon Musk start the narrative that a little economic pain is a good thing! Paying higher prices at the pump, at the supermarket checkout, etc. will be a minor annoyance/inconvenience for me, and certainly well worth the hard lesson in economics that many voters are about to learn.
 
CFordUNC said:
Not me. I’m gonna openly laugh at them. They will be quite literally getting what they want. Hell, in some respects, I’ll be pissed if he *doesn’t* follow through. Trump didn’t even try to hide that his policies would be devastating economically for the middle and working classes- he simply had Elon Musk start the narrative that a little economic pain is a good thing! Paying higher prices at the pump, at the supermarket checkout, etc. will be a minor annoyance/inconvenience for me, and certainly well worth the hard lesson in economics that many voters are about to learn.
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You do realize this can be done without incurring labor shortages or creating inflation right?
 
Tar1978Heel said:
You really are out of touch and are speaking like a true dummy…Its ton of White,Black.and Latina people that are legal that do these jobs…Man the left has no clue what is going on in this country with the real people…That’s the reason y’all lost this election…Quick google search says there are about 8,000,000 immigrants currently in our labor force.
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Quick google search says there are about 8,000,000 immigrants currently in our labor force.
 
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CFordUNC said:
Not me. I’m gonna openly laugh at them. They will be quite literally getting what they want. Hell, in some respects, I’ll be pissed if he *doesn’t* follow through. Trump didn’t even try to hide that his policies would be devastating economically for the middle and working classes- he simply had Elon Musk start the narrative that a little economic pain is a good thing! Paying higher prices at the pump, at the supermarket checkout, etc. will be a minor annoyance/inconvenience for me, and certainly well worth the hard lesson in economics that many voters are about to learn.
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ChapelHillSooner said:
Also, 45% of all agricultural workers are undocumented.

cmsny.org

A Profile of Undocumented Agricultural Workers in the United States - The Center for Migration Studies of New York (CMS)

Agricultural workers in the United States not only support the US economy but are also responsible for keeping people across the country and the globe fed.
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1978 had completely made an ass of himself here.
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MAGA have no idea what mass deportation will do to our economy. They are blindingly naive.
 
dukeman92 said:
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
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"Give me your hungry, your tired, your poor I'll piss on 'em
That's what the Statue of Bigotry says
Your poor huddled masses
Let's club 'em to death
And get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard"

Lou Reed presciently predicting Donald Trump's rise to power from the aptly titled album, "New York"
 
To be clear, I’ve got absolutely no issue whatsoever with deporting undocumented immigrants who get arrested for committing crimes. None whatsoever. Why wouldn’t we deport them? But for all the ones that are here and are working hard, helping us to build our economy, paying taxes (and largely not benefitting from any of the social services which their taxes help pay), and generally being good and productive members of society, deporting them is not only unnecessarily cruel for cruelty’s sake, it’s the epitome of cutting off our nose to spite our face. It’s idiotic.

Strengthen the border further by beefing up border security personnel and investing heavily into high-tech means of securing the border. Grow the number of immigration judges and personnel to help make the immigration process easier and more efficient for the folks who want to come here to build a better life and contribute to our great country. Stop demonizing those who want to come here and do those that things. Arrest and deport all others.
 
CFordUNC said:
To be clear, I’ve got absolutely no issue whatsoever with deporting undocumented immigrants who get arrested for committing crimes. None whatsoever. Why wouldn’t we deport them? But for all the ones that are here and are working hard, helping us to build our economy, paying taxes (and largely not benefitting from any of the social services which their taxes help pay), and generally being good and productive members of society, deporting them is not only unnecessarily cruel for cruelty’s sake, it’s the epitome of cutting off our nose to spite our face. It’s idiotic.

Strengthen the border further by beefing up border security personnel and investing heavily into high-tech means of securing the border. Grow the number of immigration judges and personnel to help make the immigration process easier and more efficient for the folks who want to come here to build a better life and contribute to our great country. Stop demonizing those who want to come here and do those that things. Arrest and deport all others.
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And the ones committing crimes are going to prison or being deported MAGA just Made Up 20,000 rapists, 15,000 murderers blah blah
 
UNCMSinLS said:
"Give me your hungry, your tired, your poor I'll piss on 'em
That's what the Statue of Bigotry says
Your poor huddled masses
Let's club 'em to death
And get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard"

Lou Reed presciently predicting Donald Trump's rise to power from the aptly titled album, "New York"
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Should have included the next line: "Get 'em out." That whole album is near perfect.
 
CFordUNC said:
Not me. I’m gonna openly laugh at them. They will be quite literally getting what they want. Hell, in some respects, I’ll be pissed if he *doesn’t* follow through. Trump didn’t even try to hide that his policies would be devastating economically for the middle and working classes- he simply had Elon Musk start the narrative that a little economic pain is a good thing! Paying higher prices at the pump, at the supermarket checkout, etc. will be a minor annoyance/inconvenience for me, and certainly well worth the hard lesson in economics that many voters are about to learn.
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My simple retort to the whining will be - "You were an idiot if you did not see this coming. That's why I voted for Harris."
 
CFordUNC said:
To be clear, I’ve got absolutely no issue whatsoever with deporting undocumented immigrants who get arrested for committing crimes. None whatsoever. Why wouldn’t we deport them? But for all the ones that are here and are working hard, helping us to build our economy, paying taxes (and largely not benefitting from any of the social services which their taxes help pay), and generally being good and productive members of society, deporting them is not only unnecessarily cruel for cruelty’s sake, it’s the epitome of cutting off our nose to spite our face. It’s idiotic.

Strengthen the border further by beefing up border security personnel and investing heavily into high-tech means of securing the border. Grow the number of immigration judges and personnel to help make the immigration process easier and more efficient for the folks who want to come here to build a better life and contribute to our great country. Stop demonizing those who want to come here and do those that things. Arrest and deport all others.
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Not enough malice for the GQP.
 
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