Mass Shooting & Gun Violence - FSU Shooter

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superrific said:
My understanding is that this poster might have some insight on this issue. Either way, I don't think it's set in stone that the guns were not stored properly. Didn't the Sandy Hook shooter kill his mom (or caretaker) to get access to the guns she had properly locked away?
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he definitely killed his mom but i believe that he had access to the guns regardless. a lot of people lay a lot of blame at his mother's feet for not doing more about his mental health / allowing someone with such clear and serious mental health issues to have access to so many deadly weapons.

my mother is from newtown, a bunch of our family still lives there. one of my aunts is in sandy hook. we have connections to quite a few of the victims and their families.
 
Bigs23 said:
Not crucifying the mom but pointing to the absurdity of our gun culture.
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There is plenty of absurdity there, but I don't see a link between that and a sheriff's deputy possessing a firearm. Police are armed here. Most police officers also carry weapons when they are off duty.
 
Bigs23 said:
Unless she didn’t store it all her storage system failed.
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No storage system is perfect. As I said earlier, there is a guy whose entire YouTube channel is dedicated to showing people how to pick locks on gun safes. This wasn't a four year old who found a gun under his mom's bed. This was a grown man who very easily could have simply bought a gun if he wanted one that badly. It is probably better off for everyone that he stole a pistol instead of buying an AR.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Mostly the portable handgun safes.
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I figured it was a storage cabinet or one of those file safe type boxes. Good gun safes offer very stout security. The gun cabinets don’t offer much resistance to determination and 10 minutes of time.
Hell, some of them are wood and have glass doors so you can admire the hand built double rifle or competition skeet gun stored within.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
No storage system is perfect. As I said earlier, there is a guy whose entire YouTube channel is dedicated to showing people how to pick locks on gun safes. This wasn't a four year old who found a gun under his mom's bed. This was a grown man who very easily could have simply bought a gun if he wanted one that badly. It is probably better off for everyone that he stole a pistol instead of buying an AR.
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I’m not doubting what you say but the empirical evidence tells us her system failed. If her safety protocols led to him accessing the gun against her wishes she effed something up.

I’d bet however that he had open access to her weaponry.
 
I read somewhere that there was a Fla State student on campus during this shooting that was also at a high school where there was a mass shooting.
 
BluHevn said:
The only purpose this serves is to be able to shoot more people faster, and MAGA and Pubs are okay with it.

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I've got mixed feeling on this. I've fired an M-16A2 on single shot and full auto. The first time I did it, was on a firing range with the barrel of the rifle resting on a sand bad. On single shot, where I paused and aimed between shots, I hit targets at 400 yards every time. On full auto, I'd be lucky to hit a target 40 yards away with one shot out of 18. Even on full auto where I was releasing the trigger as quickly as I could (about 3 or 4 shots), I still missed more times than I hit at 40 yards. Now, an M-60 or a .50 cal that was locked in place, that's a whole different matter. With an M-60, if it was in a tripod, locked in place on a specific target, and you fired short bursts, then it was pretty deadly. Same with a .50 cal, but it had to be locked in place on top of a tracked vehicle. On a jeep, the recoil from a .50 cal would rock the jeep so much that you couldn't hit anything.
 
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