Mental Health & The Election

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I got a good laugh this morning out of the mental health thread morphing into a discussion about various drugs :ROFLMAO:
There are more and more studies showing that the drugs help.

My daughter has done a couple of ketamine treatments and they were life changing and positive.

I've read of positive mdma treatments for ptsd also.

I've probably done acid, mdma, and psilocybin a few dozen times. All were positive. Compared to drinking which I had multiple stupid or bad experiences, I'll take the hallucinogens every time.
 
There are more and more studies showing that the drugs help.

My daughter has done a couple of ketamine treatments and they were life changing and positive.

I've read of positive mdma treatments for ptsd also.

I've probably done acid, mdma, and psilocybin a few dozen times. All were positive. Compared to drinking which I had multiple stupid or bad experiences, I'll take the hallucinogens every time.
Those ketamine treatments were life changing for Matthew Perry, too. User discretion advised.
 
i have a buddy who grows PE mushrooms. at request he will grind them up and put them in capsules so i can really control the dosage.

its the best thing ever.
 
Man, I’m starting to think I’ve missed out! I’m approaching mid 30s and to this day in my life I have never taken a single drug, not even marijuana or nicotine, not one time. Y’all are giving me some FOMO
You've taken alcohol, I'm guessing. Don't go anywhere near nicotine. It's not worth it. You get a buzz for a couple of minutes and then nothing.

I've always preferred cannabis to alcohol, ever since I was a teenager. And back then, we either didn't have sativa/indica or I didn't know about the difference. I think sativa is great because it is mentally stimulating, unlike booze which pretty much dulls you down. Now, mentally stimulating isn't exactly the same thing as mentally acute. I wouldn't want to take a calculus test with any amount of sativa, but since I've been writing fiction I've found that I'm at my creative best a bit buzzed on sativa.

The trick is finding it. With all the fentanyl and other ferociously powerful OD-engine opiates doing around, I would not want to take chances on illicit supply. My wife had a patient in Missouri a few years ago whose best friend died from a fentanyl overdose that he claimed was from tainted cannabis (this guy was an open heroin user seeing my wife for medication-assisted therapy, so he had no reason to hide what drugs he was really taking). I've since read that lacing cannabis isn't a thing, but I'm skeptical. It would be better to drop your kids with the inlaws or neighbors, drive to Missouri with the missus, get a room and a vape product, and have fun. Vacations don't get much cheaper.
 
Those ketamine treatments were life changing for Matthew Perry, too. User discretion advised.
I don't believe his were treatments.

What my daughter participated in was very controlled.

I've also spoken with and read about multiple others who have had successful treatments.
 
I don't believe his were treatments.

What my daughter participated in was very controlled.

I've also spoken with and read about multiple others who have had successful treatments.
He started out with controlled. But then he developed an addiction.
 
You've taken alcohol, I'm guessing. Don't go anywhere near nicotine. It's not worth it. You get a buzz for a couple of minutes and then nothing.

I've always preferred cannabis to alcohol, ever since I was a teenager. And back then, we either didn't have sativa/indica or I didn't know about the difference. I think sativa is great because it is mentally stimulating, unlike booze which pretty much dulls you down. Now, mentally stimulating isn't exactly the same thing as mentally acute. I wouldn't want to take a calculus test with any amount of sativa, but since I've been writing fiction I've found that I'm at my creative best a bit buzzed on sativa.

The trick is finding it. With all the fentanyl and other ferociously powerful OD-engine opiates doing around, I would not want to take chances on illicit supply. My wife had a patient in Missouri a few years ago whose best friend died from a fentanyl overdose that he claimed was from tainted cannabis (this guy was an open heroin user seeing my wife for medication-assisted therapy, so he had no reason to hide what drugs he was really taking). I've since read that lacing cannabis isn't a thing, but I'm skeptical. It would be better to drop your kids with the inlaws or neighbors, drive to Missouri with the missus, get a room and a vape product, and have fun. Vacations don't get much cheaper.
yeah, i tell anyone and everyone who will listen that unless you personally know the grower/producer, only buy weed products from licensed dispensaries.

even if you get some sort of street product that isn't tainted with fentanyl or something really dangerous you are very likely just wasting your money on something bunk that contains little to no THC. so many of the black market pens and concentrates are vegetable glycerin or vitamin E acetate.

 
There are no dispensaries in my part of the world. I buy online and they bring it to my door. Since the THCA bud comes with a form letter from the secretary of state certifying that this was grown to their standards and met all the conditions of the Farm Bill of 2018. That's a hell of a lot better provenance that anything I got for most of the first 45 years I smoked.
 
That's a hell of a lot better provenance that anything I got for most of the first 45 years I smoked.
Yeah but 45 years ago they weren't cutting with fentanyl. I don't have any idea why someone would cut with Strychnine but that ain't in the same ballpark of danger as the synthetic opiates.
 
He started out with controlled. But then he developed an addiction.
And I'm not saying it's perfect. There are risk. Unfortunately he had people who were more interested in money than his well being.
 
Meh...
Man, I’m starting to think I’ve missed out! I’m approaching mid 30s and to this day in my life I have never taken a single drug, not even marijuana or nicotine, not one time. Y’all are giving me some FOMO
Meh... I've tried most all of them and it's my opinion that you are not missing out.

My advice from a self medication standpoint is, first of all, IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!

My second piece of advise it if you are taking recurring dosages regularly, you are at very best, treating a symptom, not a root cause. My advice is the get a handle on the cause, and not medicate the symptom away.

I find it wildly ironic that a lot of folks want to trash a big pharma boogie man for only extracting money by treating symptoms and not root causes by prescribing chemicals, while simultaneously layout out loads of money for chemicals that at best treat symptoms and not root causes.

Chemical compounds are chemical compounds. They have no ******* idea if they were manufactured inside a lab or inside of a plant (which, from your body's perspective, is a wildly alien and potentially harmful environment). Chemicals are what they are. Some just come with double blind clinical trials proving efficacy and lack of side effects that are worse than the condition they are supposed to treat.

And the last thing I'll say is that I'm kinda over psychoactives since the assholes migrated over to them. Once upon a time the drug of choice for an asshole was cocaine. Nowadays it's my observation that the drug of choice for the assholes are psychedelics.

To be super clear, I'm not saying anyone who uses psychedelics is an asshole. Merely that it's my observation that a lot of assholes are suddenly all about some psychedelics.
 
Yeah but 45 years ago they weren't cutting with fentanyl. I don't have any idea why someone would cut with Strychnine but that ain't in the same ballpark of danger as the synthetic opiates.
Not real sure just how much better PCP or heroin were but if you say so.

Strychnine was cheaper and easier to obtain and roughly duplicated some of the effects of hallucinogens and cocaine.



Strychnine was popularly used as an athletic performance enhancer and recreational stimulant in the late 19th century and early 20th century, due to its convulsant effects. One notorious instance of its use was during the 1904 Olympics marathon, when track-and-field athlete Thomas Hicks was unwittingly administered a concoction of egg whites and brandy laced with a small amount of strychnine by his assistants in a vain attempt to boost his stamina. Hicks won the race, but was hallucinating<a href="Strychnine - Wikipedia

Maximilian Theodor Buch proposed it as a cure for alcoholism around the same time. It was thought to be similar to coffee,

Its effects are well-described in H. G. Wells' novella The Invisible Man: the title character states "Strychnine is a grand tonic ... to take the flabbiness out of a man." Dr Kemp, an acquaintance, replies: "It's the devil. It's the palaeolithic in a bottle."<a href="https://en.wikipedia
 
He started out with controlled. But then he developed an addiction.
Matthew Perry was addicted to everything. He was also a raging alcoholic. By your calculation no one should touch alcohol based on Matthew Perry's alcoholism.
 
I just don’t want to poison you all with my high stress processing framework., though. Today, I’m feeling very guilty about that.
This irks me. You're the heart and soul of this board and one flibbertigibbet poster who has run the gamut of guaranteeing Biden, Harris and Trump victories has said your posting of various polls has upset him and now you feel guilty?? You provide more value and information than anybody on the board and now you feel like you might be "poisoning" us? Maybe there's more going on here than just that one poster, but that's all I've seen. Regardless, you're the main reason (certainly one of the main reasons, besides, of course, Rock) that most of the posters in here are here at all. You are literally my main source of news and oppo research as well as being a great poster in general aside from the political stuff. You post whatever you want to post, I assure you it is appreciated by far more posters in here than it might prove distressing to a few (very few). Illegitimi non carborundum, nycfan...
 
Unless you are using psychedelics with those people, what does it matter whether other users are assholes?
To me it's about tribal identity signaling.

That's great when the tribal identity is "Peace, Love, and Rock and Roll".

But it's quite another thing when the tribal identity is "Well you know, Hitler wasn't ALL bad...".
 
Not real sure just how much better PCP or heroin were but if you say so.

Strychnine was cheaper and easier to obtain and roughly duplicated some of the effects of hallucinogens and cocaine.



Strychnine was popularly used as an athletic performance enhancer and recreational stimulant in the late 19th century and early 20th century, due to its convulsant effects. One notorious instance of its use was during the 1904 Olympics marathon, when track-and-field athlete Thomas Hicks was unwittingly administered a concoction of egg whites and brandy laced with a small amount of strychnine by his assistants in a vain attempt to boost his stamina. Hicks won the race, but was hallucinating<a href="Strychnine - Wikipedia

Maximilian Theodor Buch proposed it as a cure for alcoholism around the same time. It was thought to be similar to coffee,

Its effects are well-described in H. G. Wells' novella The Invisible Man: the title character states "Strychnine is a grand tonic ... to take the flabbiness out of a man." Dr Kemp, an acquaintance, replies: "It's the devil. It's the palaeolithic in a bottle."<a href="https://en.wikipedia
I see. I thought strynchine was just a poison. Anyway, could you elaborate on the PCP/heroin comment? Are you saying you did those drugs, or that drugs you did were cut with them?
 
To me it's about tribal identity signaling.

That's great when the tribal identity is "Peace, Love, and Rock and Roll".

But it's quite another thing when the tribal identity is "We'll you know, Hitler wasn't ALL bad...".
I get that. But driving a Tesla for all to see seems quite different than tripping out at home. The latter wouldn't seem to me to have much connection to tribal identity. I mean, it's fine if that consideration is important to you. For me, it wouldn't come to mind . . . and I'm someone who will never buy a Tesla.
 
As far as heroin, drugs that were cut with it. Fwiw, just assume that if there was a drug between 1970 and 1985 you could use without a needle, I tried it. If I liked it, I tried it a lot. I really liked speed, LSD, MDA and mescaline.
 
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