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farce© said:
I don’t believe it was rigged, but I do think it shows the NBA lottery system isn’t working. The goal of a draft is to allow the bottom teams to acquire talent so they can improve. They established the lottery to avoid teams tanking. That hasn’t worked as more teams are tanking than ever. But there are too many teams in the lottery, and the worst team has never won the first pick. They need to limit the ability to win the first pick to the bottom 4 or 5 teams.

There are currently 14 teams in the lottery. They should eliminate the play-in losers from the lottery and their draft position should be determined by their finish like playoff teams. That leaves 12 lottery-eligible teams. Have 3 separate lotteries to determine the first four picks among the four worst teams, a separate drawing for teams 5-8, then 9-12. They can weight the teams chances within the different buckets if that is preferable, but it eliminates teams jumping from 12 or 14 to number 1. That will avoid teams barely missing the playoffs getting the top pick. And we should just forget the notion of stopping tanking because nothing they have tried has worked.
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Love this idea.
 
sringwal said:
I agree that it is highly unlikely, but I'd have said the same about the Mavs trading away Luka.

I highly doubt that the Spurs would be interested in AD. He is well past his prime.

Going after a PG also works as Harper is probably the best available, but I don't see how he fits in with Castle and Fox.

This is probably just wishful thinking on my part, as a Spurs fan, but a lineup of Castle, Fox, Barnes, Flagg, Wemby has a chance to be extremely dangerous, and is probably Barnes' best shot at getting a ring.

You also have Vassell coming off the bench, so the Spurs are already extremely deep at the guard spot, regardless of what happens with Paul.
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AD has many years left if he can play PF. Between Wemby and AD, they could man the 4 and 5 and be a terror on defense.

When you have the #2 pick, you don't worry about fit. I mean, maybe don't pick a Wemby clone, but the goal has to be to get the best player. Then you deal someone. I'm not sure Fox and Castle fit that well themselves, and I would think Castle could be moved for a piece that fits the Spurs roster a little. Or maybe Sochan. In any event, Devin Vassell is not a reason to avoid taking Harper.

How long is Fox under contract? He has one year left? Two? You take Harper, play him 20 mpg this year and he becomes the starter next.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Haha. That’s not the correct math. It’s 2025.
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All right. 40 years. 8 out of 40 is 20%, which is still very much in line with the odds. Plus, for the first five years, the lottery odds were flat; and then from 1990 to 1994, the first place team had only a 16% chance.

So for the first nine or ten years, the worst team had a 14-16% chance to win the lottery. Thereafter it went to 25%, before returning to 14% after 2019. I'm not going to do the math there, but my guess is that in the aggregate, the overall odds for the worst team are about 20%.
 
superrific said:
AD has many years left if he can play PF. Between Wemby and AD, they could man the 4 and 5 and be a terror on defense.

When you have the #2 pick, you don't worry about fit. I mean, maybe don't pick a Wemby clone, but the goal has to be to get the best player. Then you deal someone. I'm not sure Fox and Castle fit that well themselves, and I would think Castle could be moved for a piece that fits the Spurs roster a little. Or maybe Sochan. In any event, Devin Vassell is not a reason to avoid taking Harper.

How long is Fox under contract? He has one year left? Two? You take Harper, play him 20 mpg this year and he becomes the starter next.
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Well reasoned post, although I have never really been sold on AD. He isn't someone that I would build around, despite his strengths.
 
sringwal said:
Well reasoned post, although I have never really been sold on AD. He isn't someone that I would build around, despite his strengths.
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And the great thing about having him on the Spurs: they wouldn't have to build around him, because Wemby.

For the Spurs, AD could be like a rich man's Al Horford.
 
Vince Carter territory.

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Real talk, though - Wilt coming in third all time absolutely blows my mind. I’d heard about him pressing 400 lbs, but being 7.1 and having a 46 inch vehicle? What the fuck?

Can you imagine if he played in an era when dunking was allowed? In today’s era, surround him with three shooters and a slasher and let him work.
 
I like Mark Cuban, so I pull for the Mavs. I really don't have a favorite NBA team, pull for Charolotte since I'm from NC, but they have never been that compelling. I just like watching the games now and then.

That being said, I was disappointed that the Mavs traded Luka, not as disappointed as I was when the Hawks traded and didn't land him, so I'm glad they have the top pick.
 
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As a Mavs fan since elementary school, hiring Kidd was a big blow to my fandom. Dude sucks. I went from a daily boxscore watcher who prioritized watching playoff and pivotal games, to checking in 1-2x week and catching part of a playoff game, when absolutely nothing else was going on. Since the sale to Miriam Adelson, I've become a casual NBA fan who actively roots against the Mavs, in a similar manner that I root against Tesla.

I think it sucks the Mavs get to potentially fail up.
 
sringwal said:
Vince Carter territory.

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Real talk, though - Wilt coming in third all time absolutely blows my mind. I’d heard about him pressing 400 lbs, but being 7.1 and having a 46 inch vehicle? What the fuck?

Can you imagine if he played in an era when dunking was allowed? In today’s era, surround him with three shooters and a slasher and let him work.
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Dunking was allowed in the NBA when Wilt played and when he played in college. It was outlawed in college from 1967 to 1976. It was never outlawed in the NBA. Dunks just weren’t all that common prior to the 1970s. But as I understand it, Chamberlian dunked in games.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Dunking was allowed in the NBA when Wilt played and when he played in college. It was outlawed in college from 1967 to 1976. It was never outlawed in the NBA. Dunks just weren’t all that common prior to the 1970s. But as I understand it, Chamberlian dunked in games.
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If I ever knew that, and it feels like the kind of thing that I knew as a teen, then I had long forgotten. Thanks!
 
Dunking was never banned in the NBA. It was banned in amateur basketball (college and high school) from 1967-76. It was the “Alcindor rule.”
 
farce© said:
Dunking was never banned in the NBA. It was banned in amateur basketball (college and high school) from 1967-76. It was the “Alcindor rule.”
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That’s what I get for being born in ‘79. I am fuzzy about everything sports-wise that came before than other than baseball and UNC sports, both of which I learned about religiously during my elementary school years.
 
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