OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - CONGRESS | GOP takes Senate | GOP retains House majority

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It was never likely, at all, that the Dems would take the House if Kamala lost. It was even less likely with that margin of victory. We aren't going to get the House.
 
superrific said:
It was never likely, at all, that the Dems would take the House if Kamala lost. It was even less likely with that margin of victory. We aren't going to get the House.
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Frankly, it may be better for Trump to have all three levers of power (four if you count the court) for the first two years. If past is prologue, then 2026 could be a repeat of 2018.
 
The remaining open seats (though I think it was just called for Kaptur in Ohio9):

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nycfan said:
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Whew. We're not out of the woods yet there, but damn that makes me feel a lot better about that race. When it's all said and done, it looks like we will only lose the seats we expected and maybe Casey. That race isn't done yet, although I'd much rather be them than us.
 
nycfan said:
Rosen squeaks out a win.
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I've been watching election returns a long time. This is ALWAYS how Nevada goes. I feel like I've seen these exact same margins many times. 80% of the vote, Pub leads by a few thousand, and then the Dem takes it as the last votes are counted. It's like every election there.
 
nycfan said:
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No surprise, I've never thought that the Democrats would win the House majority. And I'm actually glad they won't. Don't give Republicans a target to blame if things go south with their agenda. It's clear that voters this cycle preferred Trump and far-right Republicans, so give it to them with both barrels. Let the GOP control all branches of the government, enact their agenda, and then see what happens. Having said that, it would be nice if the Democrats come within just a handful of seats of controlling the House, as it will make it easier for them to win a majority in 2026.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
No surprise, I've never thought that the Democrats would win the House majority. And I'm actually glad they won't. Don't give Republicans a target to blame if things go south with their agenda. It's clear that voters this cycle preferred Trump and far-right Republicans, so give it to them with both barrels. Let the GOP control all branches of the government, enact their agenda, and then see what happens. Having said that, it would be nice if the Democrats come within just a handful of seats of controlling the House, as it will make it easier for them to win a majority in 2026.
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I agree with your sentiment, in principle. However, with at least one branch of gov held by blue I think democracy is the patient on a respirator with faint potentials detected on EEG - in that case, there's hope, if ever so scant. With red taking on authoritarian hegemony the same patient has zero EEG activity, and is effectively a mechanically sustained bag of cells and fluids, with no chance of recovery.

The only silver lining I see is the coming destruction allows a completely different, and more progressive, country(s) to form in 3-4 decades. In the interregnum, I think violence, rapid expansion of mass detainment, gross human rights abuses, and corruption will define the US.
 
HeelingAg said:
I agree with your sentiment, in principle. However, with at least one branch of gov held by blue I think democracy is the patient on a respirator with faint potentials detected on EEG - in that case, there's hope, if ever so scant. With red taking on authoritarian hegemony the same patient has zero EEG activity, and is effectively a mechanically sustained bag of cells and fluids, with no chance of recovery.

The only silver lining I see is the coming destruction allows a completely different, and more progressive, country(s) to form in 3-4 decades. In the interregnum, I think violence, rapid expansion of mass detainment, gross human rights abuses, and corruption will define the US.
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Oh goodie...a better society...when we are all dead.
 
I hope the Democrats come within a few seats of flipping the House but that it ultimately remains in Republican control. We need for the entire government apparatus to be controlled by the Republicans. Got to give the voters what they want. Maybe we need to go through government shutdowns every few months or default on our debt.
 
CFordUNC said:
I hope the Democrats come within a few seats of flipping the House but that it ultimately remains in Republican control. We need for the entire government apparatus to be controlled by the Republicans. Got to give the voters what they want. Maybe we need to go through government shutdowns every few months or default on our debt.
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I think default is viewed favorably by thiel and musk.
 
HeelingAg said:
I think default is viewed favorably by thiel and musk.
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Yep. That’s exactly what they want. And exactly what they said they’d hope would happen. Elon Musk quite literally and quite explicitly said just last week that we’d need to experience some economic pain and hardship in the “short term” and millions upon millions of people who have whined and cried the loudest about the price of everything ran right to the polls and voted for it. Got to give the voters what they want.
 
CFordUNC said:
Yep. That’s exactly what they want. And exactly what they said they’d hope would happen. Elon Musk quite literally and quite explicitly said just last week that we’d need to experience some economic pain and hardship in the “short term” and millions upon millions of people who have whined and cried the loudest about the price of everything ran right to the polls and voted for it. Got to give the voters what they want.
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I hear you.

Also, if default happens, we're talking great(er) depression suffering. My point and opinion (from an obvious cynic), I think the sentiment that a fully red government will serve as an excellent means of teaching often comes from folks with a sanguine perspective on the severity of the impending impacts.

I'm constantly attempting to check myself with respect to accepting, even inviting, the inevitable hardships to come vs. extrapolating out the humanitarian disaster(s) I think evidence points to, and realizing "I don't want that for anyone". It's why I can't get behind the overall FAFO attitude, as I think it underestimates what's to come.
 
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