OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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If you really believe this, you're out of touch.

Make no mistake, Trump is an awful candidate and will likely lose. But if he wins, it'll be because the statement you made that I quoted above is not true at all for everyday middle-class Americans. When many people compare the world right now to the world 4 years ago, they feel the pain of inflation and they have a fear of the world seemingly being on the brink of World War III.
I completely understand that many people are unable to divorce their personal economic circumstances from the economy as a whole. By and large people's perceptions of the economy are driven by their personal experience, which of course is foolish because people's personal economic experiences are driven way more by their individual circumstances rather than anything the government does. I'm not saying people aren't feeling real financial strain, but I do expect people to be smart enough to exercise a modicum of critical thinking to understand why that is. When you look around the world and see lower inflation than almost anywhere else, now brought under control better than almost anywhere else, with wages growing better than almost anywhere else, you understand pretty easily that it's not the current administration that is the cause of anyone's personal financial strain, and in fact it would pretty obviously be worse if a Trump admin was in charge. Unless you think that increasing the tax burden on poor and middle-class families is a good thing.

Again, there is no real way to objectively dispute that the Biden admin has done as good or better a job in the post-COVID recovery as any other government on the planet. And there is near-unanimous consensus among economists that most Americans (other than the super rich) will be worse off under Trump, and that Trump will be worse for the economy as a whole. I understand why low-information voters either don't comprehend that or can't be bothered to learn it. But you're not a low-information voter. What's your excuse? Do you actually dispute the truth of anything I said in that post, or are you just acknowledging that people's subjective anxiety about their own financial situation (largely unrelated to any government policy) is a worthy reason to vote for Trump even if it's irrational?
 
wife and I are in the very best financial shape we have ever been in our 55 years of marriage. You do not know ish.
Why would that be surprising? As you age, you make more money, have less family obligations and have less debt. You are describing basically everyone of any means. It has nothing to do with who is POTUS.
 
Remember, in Trump world, nothing related to the pandemic is Trump's fault but everything related to the pandemic is Biden's fault.
This is the most frustrating thing about interacting with current Republicans. I constantly hear that inflation was bad under Biden, so it's his fault. But when I ask that since the pandemic happened under Trump is that his fault, I get "of course not". They also can't acknowledge that the US handled inflation better than the majority of our peers and our economy is the best in the world. The hypocrisy and lack of critical thinking is off the charts. Of course 90% of the Trump supporters in my social media feeds are dudes who either didn't graduate or barely made it out of high school and are now just scraping by, so not sure why I would expect them to no longer be dumbasses when they were dumbasses in high school 30 years ago.
 
GUYS, C’MON.

Take it to another thread, please. I don’t want to have to lock and replace this one.
 
For those who actually look at the data and trust economist and top professionals, the Biden Harris reality is positive.

Trump simply lies to the cult members. And considering these are people that don't believe the science behind climate change while believing that the government created and targeted hurricanes, it's pretty clear why the lies are believed.
Take it outside, fellas —>


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