OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Absolutely mind boggling.

Serious Question: IF Trump wins, and you are the Democratic party, don't you have to look in the mirror at least to some degree to try and figure out how you lose to this guy twice in 3 elections?

I think you do. Clearly, the Paul Ryan republican party is gone and has no constituency. So what can Democrats do to appeal to more folks?
Start hating women, gays and brown people. Suck the dick of billionaires everywhere? Kiss Putins ass?
 
What kind of candidate is trump?
Garbage. He has no vision for the future. He can be easily bought. He's impulsive, childish and unintelligent. Trump's quality, or lack of, doesn't make Kamala any better. She's essentially the same candidate that failed badly in 2020.
 
You won't have to listen for four years. ttump won't make it four years; he might be acceptable to display to the public for two - maybe. You'll have to listen to Vance, Cotton, Theil, Musk, Hawley, and RFK jr tell you reality isn't real and how great it is that corporations no longer pay taxes, the concentration camps are for our safety, and the social safety net has been holding this country back for decades.
Over/Under on 25th A?
 
Garbage. He has no vision for the future. He can be easily bought. He's impulsive, childish and unintelligent. Trump's quality, or lack of, doesn't make Kamala any better. She's essentially the same candidate that failed badly in 2020.
Maybe but this is a heads up contest.
 
Nope.

She offered Rogan an interview. He turned it down because he wanted to dictate the terms in the final days of a tight race in which she was pounding the pavement in battleground areas.

Fuck him. He was always going to endorse Trump, and his crypto-bro crowd were never going to give her the time of day.
She chose SNL over Rogan.
 
Would Biden have done better?

Shapiro?

Mayor Pete?

Newsom?

Who could have won?
Andy Beshear or Gretchen Whitmer would have been in abstract, but given the circumstances, there really was no viable option. If Biden had withdrawn early 2024, there may have been a chance to get an outsider candidate without the border/inflation baggage.
 
Would Biden have done better?

Shapiro?

Mayor Pete?

Newsom?

Who could have won?
A man would have been the only chance. But with inflation, and the shit ass messaging on it from Biden for years, I dont think it would have mattered.

This is a shithole country like Trump said it is. It's just that it deserves the shit he is about to do to it. We are just collateral damage.
 
But even mediocre should beat the terrible candidate that is Trump.
I used to think that, but not anymore. Trump is a horrible person and a bigot and assclown and all the rest, but he really does seem to have his finger on America's id, and he does know how to entertain and stay in the spotlight and above all, he knows exactly how to appeal to the fears and anger and resentments of a huge swath of the country. And in the process he has created a cult of personality that may well be unprecedented in our history. In other words, he is a formidable candidate who would be difficult for any Democrat to beat, including Obama. I don't agree that Kamala was a terrible or even mediocre candidate. I think she did well and made very few mistakes. The fact that she still lost says less about her than about who and where we are as a nation, and it's not a pretty picture.
 
Andy Beshear or Gretchen Whitmer would have been in abstract, but given the circumstances, there really was no viable option. If Biden had withdrawn early 2024, there may have been a chance to get an outsider candidate without the border/inflation baggage.
In hindsight Biden had RBG disorder. Both held on too long for some egotistical reason and it screwed everything to pieces. Irreparably
 
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