Protection Of Women And Girls In Sports Act

[Callatoroy]

Will be interesting to see if after barely passing the house there are enough dem votes in the senate to pass the filibuster. It seems as if a majority of dem voters oppose trans in women sports but only 2 dem house members voted for the bill.

AOC, Jeffries remain silent on Democrat backlash after saying anti-trans athlete bill empowers child predators

Hakeem Jeffries and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have not addressed voter backlash to the argument that protecting women's sports would empower child predators.

www.foxnews.com

 

[nycfan]

Unlikely but could be a leading indicator of how Thune will handle these situations— how often will he force votes he knows he will lose to get Dems on the record.

 

[uncjhodges]

A solution for a problem that doesn’t exist. Donald Trump has sexually assaulted more women than trans female athletes in the NCAA or state of NC

 

[lawtig02]

This is definitely one of those vitally important things that should be closely regulated at the federal level rather than entrusting it to states and municipalities, as opposed to much less important things like disaster relief and education policy, for which the federal government should have no role whatsoever because states and municipalities have the right to make their own decisions.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Unlikely but could be a leading indicator of how Thune will handle these situations— how often will he force votes he knows he will lose to get Dems on the record.

I’d think this early on he might want to keep the tone as collegial as possible (and keep his powder dry until mid term election season).

 

[CFordUNC]

As I said on a different thread the other day, I think that the left’s defense of our transgender brothers and sisters is not only noble, but morally and ethically the right thing. I think that the right’s repeated bullying of our transgender brothers and sisters is as pathetic as it is immoral and unethical.

But Democrats have to completely cede this issue for now, IMO. They cannot win it, and continuing to try to fight it will only continue to result in more electoral problems. You can’t pass policy or you can’t fix what’s broken if you can’t get elected.

As a matter of fact, I think the left needs to completely cede the entire culture war battlefield to the right. The entire focus of the Democratic Party over the next 18 months needs to be hammering Republicans on the bad economy and skyrocketing inflation. That’s it.

 

[lawtig02]

As I said on a different thread the other day, I think that the left’s defense of our transgender brothers and sisters is not only noble, but morally and ethically the right thing. I think that the right’s repeated bullying of our transgender brothers and sisters is as pathetic as it is immoral and unethical.

But Democrats have to completely cede this issue for now, IMO. They cannot win it, and continuing to try to fight it will only continue to result in more electoral problems. You can’t pass policy or you can’t fix what’s broken if you can’t get elected.

As a matter of fact, I think the left needs to completely cede the entire culture war battlefield to the right. The entire focus of the Democratic Party over the next 18 months needs to be hammering Republicans on the bad economy and skyrocketing inflation. That’s it.

I'm fine with ceding the issue. If the law passes, that's fine with me. I'm just hoping one of our resident conservatives can help me understand why this is an issue that requires federal involvement, while piddly little things like disaster response and education policy should be left entirely to the good judgment of our blessed states and municipalities.

I mean, we're on an anti-hypocrisy campaign now, aren't we calla? If that doesn't apply here, maybe you could help me understand?

 

[nycfan]

I’d think this early on he might want to keep the tone as collegial as possible (and keep his powder dry until mid term election season).

Yeah, plus he could pull this sort of vote out of his pocket pretty much at any point, so no need to rush it. Let it languish in committee and maybe try to do some point-scoring there if they feel so inclined.

 

[CFordUNC]

I'm fine with ceding the issue. If the law passes, that's fine with me. I'm just hoping one of our resident conservatives can help me understand why this is an issue that requires federal involvement, while piddly little things like disaster response and education policy should be left entirely to the good judgment of our blessed states and municipalities.

I mean, we're on an anti-hypocrisy campaign now, aren't we calla? If that doesn't apply here, maybe you could help me understand?

Oh I’m in complete and total agreement with you, 100%. Couldn’t agree more, in fact. As an actual conservative who actually believes in actual limited government and actual protection of individual freedom, it completely boggles my mind that anyone would think that this is an issue about which the federal government should be concerned.

 

[ChileG]

Will be interesting to see if after barely passing the house there are enough dem votes in the senate to pass the filibuster. It seems as if a majority of dem voters oppose trans in women sports but only 2 dem house members voted for the bill.

AOC, Jeffries remain silent on Democrat backlash after saying anti-trans athlete bill empowers child predators

Hakeem Jeffries and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have not addressed voter backlash to the argument that protecting women's sports would empower child predators.

www.foxnews.com

My position (and I think it is a conservative one) is…keep government out of the decision and let the governing body of each league determine.
I think there are instances where allowing transgendered girls to compete with other girls makes sense (or at least isn’t harmful), and instances (depending upon age and sport) where it does not.

 

[Ramrouser]

It's part of the Republican's Common Sense Agenda. It's paints Dems in a corner of defending a 6 foot 3 trans volleyball player spiking the ball onto the head of a cute, blond. "We're for YOU, Dems are for they/them." It's a continuation of the Presidential campaign. Granted, it's not the most important issue we're facing but Trump's working 24/7 on those issues as well.

 

[lawtig02]

It's part of the Republican's Common Sense Agenda. It's paints Dems in a corner of defending a 6 foot 3 trans volleyball player spiking the ball onto the head of a cute, blond. "We're for YOU, Dems are for they/them." It's a continuation of the Presidential campaign. Granted, it's not the most important issue we're facing but Trump's working 24/7 on those issues as well.

Thanks for acknowledging there's not a VALID reason for the federal government to get involved in this, except to allow the Pubs to score political points. We don't get that level of honesty very often around here.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

It's part of the Republican's Common Sense Agenda. It's paints Dems in a corner of defending a 6 foot 3 trans volleyball player spiking the ball onto the head of a cute, blond. "We're for YOU, Dems are for they/them." It's a continuation of the Presidential campaign. Granted, it's not the most important issue we're facing but Trump's working 24/7 on those issues as well.

If HS sports injuries are fair game for federal legislation, we’ve far bigger fish to fry than those allegedly caused by the presence of transgendered athletes, wouldn’t you agree?

 

[uncjhodges]

If HS sports injuries are fair game for federal legislation, we’ve far bigger fish to fry than those allegedly caused by the presence of transgendered athletes, wouldn’t you agree?

Yes, we should probably ban football

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Yes, we should probably ban football

Yeah, if a “cute, blond” getting a broken nose is worthy of intervention, it seems half a dozen deaths per year might be a high priority.

 

[Zoo_View]

It's part of the Republican's Common Sense Agenda. It's paints Dems in a corner of defending a 6 foot 3 trans volleyball player spiking the ball onto the head of a cute, blond. "We're for YOU, Dems are for they/them." It's a continuation of the Presidential campaign. Granted, it's not the most important issue we're facing but Trump's working 24/7 on those issues as well.

Yeah…..Trump’s all over bringing egg prices down.

 

[CFordUNC]

My position (and I think it is a conservative one) is…keep government out of the decision and let the governing body of each league determine.
I think there are instances where allowing transgendered girls to compete with other girls makes sense (or at least isn’t harmful), and instances (depending upon age and sport) where it does not.

Completely and totally agree. Well said. That’s exactly where I stand. It’s not a government issue. It’s an individual governing body issue. There is no one-size-fits-all template.

 

[rodoheel]

It's part of the Republican's Common Sense Agenda. It's paints Dems in a corner of defending a 6 foot 3 trans volleyball player spiking the ball onto the head of a cute, blond. "We're for YOU, Dems are for they/them." It's a continuation of the Presidential campaign. Granted, it's not the most important issue we're facing but Trump's working 24/7 on those issues as well.

A 6’3 player spiking the ball in someone’s face happens all the time in women’s volleyball. What Pubs would have you believe is that’s it’s fine if the 6’3 player was born with lady parts but a moral travesty if they were born with something else.

 

[nycfan]

It's part of the Republican's Common Sense Agenda. It's paints Dems in a corner of defending a 6 foot 3 trans volleyball player spiking the ball onto the head of a cute, blond. "We're for YOU, Dems are for they/them." It's a continuation of the Presidential campaign. Granted, it's not the most important issue we're facing but Trump's working 24/7 on those issues as well.

Dude, have you ever played organized volleyball on any competitive level? I did (albeit in high school) and that volleyball story is such a load of horseshit. The player in question is not the best on her team and statistically is middling in her conference. If you fear her, your teams better reject a bid to the NCAA Tournament to avoid playing any of the national title contending women’s teams because the terrifying transgender player isn’t good enough to make those squads. Their top hitters spikes are at least 50 mph, some considerably higher. The best male college players can hit up to 70 mph but the trans player is an average player in women’s volleyball.

Also, 6-3 is a normal height for hitters on good Div 1 women’s volleyball teams, not some anomaly.

And the one play where the girl got hit in the face is a thing that happens in competitive volleyball, sometimes because you are trying to use your shoulder as an emergency dig of a deep serve or spike and fuck up, sometimes because you are too slow. But it is not like ooooh she was targeted!!!!

I think that you are just saying it is great political optics and I am not sure if you have genuine objections in this case otherwise, but this one is so damned irritating.

 

[lawtig02]

Dude, have you ever played organized volleyball on any competitive level? I did (albeit in high school) and that volleyball story is such a load of horseshit. The player in question is not the best on her team and statistically is middling in her conference. If you fear her, your teams better reject a bid to the NCAA Tournament to avoid playing any of the national title contending women’s teams because the terrifying transgender player isn’t good enough to make those squads. Their top hitters spikes are at least 50 mph, some considerably higher. The best male college players can hit up to 70 mph but the trans player is an average player in women’s volleyball.

Also, 6-3 is a normal height for hitters on good Div 1 women’s volleyball teams, not some anomaly.

I think that you are just saying it is great political optics and I am not sure if you have genuine objections in this case otherwise, but this one is so damned irritating.

"Cute, blond" actually says it all. That's Ram in a nutshell. His spelling issues aside, he thinks anyone with XX chromosomes who happens to be "cute" and "blond" [sic] somehow needs protection from the federal government. I've said this before, but this is the world Ram wants to inhabit.