Republicans for Harris

I’m curious, and this is for any poster who was Republican prior to Trump, has voted/is voting Dem, but wants a Pub reset.

Is there anyone from the current bench you’d support if Trump loses in November, and in some way, shape or form, isn’t the guy (again) in 2028?

Someone like Kemp or Youngkin? Or others? It’s hard finding someone who isn’t all-in on the cult, but still holds on to more traditional Pub positions.
I voted republican prior to trump.
At this time I don't know of any republican I could vote for. Their culture war has done it for me. I can't vote for people that want to actively discriminate against people and negatively impact those people's lives. I've also grown weary of the anti-science movement and the white christian nationalist movement. Science and education are a key in the success of our country. Freedom of religion is for each individual to make their own choices. I'm for freedoms for people to live their own lives.

I live in Ga, Kemp is fighting the same culture war as DeSantis, he's just quieter about it. And after the way he bowed down when trump talked shit about him, I don't believe he has the strength to be a president.
 
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Another national Republican politician, or former politician, jumps on the Kamala bandwagon.

Susan Molinari was part of the 1994 Republican wave that eventually helped balance the budget and with Bill Clinton guided a strong 1990s tech-driven economic expansion and boom. Her dad, Guy Molinaryi was a long-time stalwart in Staten Island Republican politics. Susan was a Duke student before transferring.

Former N.Y. Republican Rep. Molinari endorses Harris for president

Susan Molinari, daughter of another prominent New York Republican, told Spectrum News NY1 she believes Harris is "smart," “strong” and “knows how to handle herself on the world stage.”

And she's not crazy,” she said.

Molinari is part of a new “Republicans for Harris” coalition. It's an effort to reach out to disaffected members of the GOP who, like her, may not agree with everything Democrats stand for policy-wise, but view former President Donald Trump as a volatile threat.

Asked about Barr, Molinari said, “I don't want to sit in judgment of anyone. But you know he has clearly said, ‘Trump is a national danger.’ How can you put him back in office?”
 
I voted republican prior to trump.
At this time I don't know of any republican I could vote for. Their culture war has done it for me. I can't vote for people that want to actively discriminate against people and negatively impact those people's lives. I've also grown weary of the anti-science movement and the white christian nationalist movement. Science and education are a key in the success of our country. Freedom of religion is for each individual to make their own choices. I'm for freedoms for people to live their own lives.

I live in Ga, Kemp if fighting the same culture war as DeSantis, he's just quieter about it. And after the way he bowed down when trump talked shit about him, I don't believe he has the strength to be a president.


I don't mean any disrespect but if those things were important to you before trump then why were you voting republican then? What was it that drew you to that party?
 
Speaking if Republicans against Trump, they posted this gem from Trumper Candace Owens in all her antisemitic glory.

Remember Trump is out there claiming any Jew who votes for a Democrat is crazy.

 
I don't mean any disrespect but if those things were important to you before trump then why were you voting republican then? What was it that drew you to that party?

No offense taken whatsoever.

I’ve thought a lot about this over the years.

It all boils down to being ignorant, a follower, and not building/examining my personal worldview.

I’ve never been the smartest guy, but I’ve always been very driven and open to change.

There have been multiple things over the years that have helped to direct my life, my beliefs, and the issues I support.

In my mid 20’s I recall reading an article that fully agreed with my opinion, at the time, regarding climate change. I brought up that article in a discussion and others in the discussion provided me information and evidence that the article was incorrect. I was honestly embarrassed, and it made me realize that I could not accept anything at face value. I had to read and make an effort to ensure that the information I trusted was sound and factual. I became more of a skeptic and less accepting without proof.

Then there was the realization that I needed to better myself to be successful. I needed more education to be more competitive in the workplace and make more money. So, I went back to college and earned my bachelor's in computer science. Writing papers on welfare for a political science class and other research for my humanities classes helped me to continue to grow in my beliefs and opinions of others. It helped me begin to understand the lies I was accepting about welfare, socialism, and the whole self-sufficiency mythology.

I was never a racist or homophobe, but I wasn’t anti-racism or anti-homophobe either. The biggest challenge to my life and my worldview came from working with my daughter through her years of struggles. That’s a bigger discussion for another day, but the one thing that is forever burned into my being is the realization that even though I was not homophobic, I didn’t make my beliefs known to my children. This is a regret I will carry forever as it was an integral part of my daughter’s issues. During discussions and counseling she told me and my wife that she knew she was gay and because of the constant messaging she was receiving from the church and our Christian friends, she felt that there was something wrong with her to make her gay. She assumed, since I had never voiced my beliefs, that my beliefs were in line with those of the church and our friends. What she didn’t know was that my beliefs were not in align with the bigoted homophobic beliefs of the church and it was my fault that I was too much of a follower to tell my children my beliefs regarding this subject. In addition, during this period, there was such an outpouring of grace, compassion, and support for my family. I had never experienced such support in my life. It further influenced my views about self-sufficiency and helped me to continue to grow in being more empathetic toward people in need and more understanding of people who are different than I am.

These things all worked together over the years to change my worldview and to show me that I couldn’t simply sit back and be neutral in regard to subjects of acceptance, personal freedoms, and discrimination. I had to, at a minimum, express my opinion and support people’s right to be themselves.

I was growing weary of the positions of the right, but when trump became the candidate for the 2016 presidential race, I knew I could not vote for him. Him personally, at this point it wasn’t policy, it was that I knew he was a piece of shit and had always been a piece of shit. But history and roots are strong and hard to overcome. Even with growth in so many areas, I still wasn’t able to vote for Hillary. I voted for a third party. My wife, who is normally ahead of me, voted for Hillary that year.

Over the next few years, the constant actions of trump, the belittling or people, the negativity toward marginalized groups and the acceptance of trump by so many I knew, who had previously claimed to be accepting but now demonstrated that they were just suppressing their racism, bigotry, and homophobia pushed me to be even more open about my positions. I was very vocal about wanting trump out in the 2020 election and open about my support for issues of marginalized groups and their fight for equality.

My daughter continued to help me grow and understand. I could see there is no agenda, that she and other LBGTQ people are pursuing, rather they simply want the same opportunity to pursue their best life and love and share love just as any other adult would. Without labels our artificial boundaries or the constraint of what others see as “Normal”.

As life goes on, I still work to tear down the barriers of ignorance that I have and to understand that I have been so fortunate to have the opportunities that I have had.
 
While I do appreciate all the "former" GOP reps being honest and doing the right thing, it highlights a very important truism (fact I believe). I think a majority of standing Republicans. still holding office. feel the same way but abide by the cult leader out of self preservation.

I am not talking about the nutjobs like MTG, Bobo, Comer Pyle. Gym Jordan and all the other ilk like them.

It is sad that the Republicans could not find a way, or the courage, to band together and find a way to kick him out, or create a party rule that those that deny election results, found guilty of sexual assault in civil Court, and guilty of 34 counts in another matter ' can not serve in the Pub party.

Of course Trump would have run with his MAGA cult as a third party, basically handing election to Dems. But they should have gotten rid if him years ago, or a year ago at a minimum.
 
While I do appreciate all the "former" GOP reps being honest and doing the right thing, it highlights a very important truism (fact I believe). I think a majority of standing Republicans. still holding office. feel the same way but abide by the cult leader out of self preservation.

I am not talking about the nutjobs like MTG, Bobo, Comer Pyle. Gym Jordan and all the other ilk like them.

It is sad that the Republicans could not find a way, or the courage, to band together and find a way to kick him out, or create a party rule that those that deny election results, found guilty of sexual assault in civil Court, and guilty of 34 counts in another matter ' can not serve in the Pub party.

Of course Trump would have run with his MAGA cult as a third party, basically handing election to Dems. But they should have gotten rid if him years ago, or a year ago at a minimum.
If the majority of Pubs cared more about the country than winning and weren't the same as the MAGAs then Trump wouldn't be their candidate. Sure there are those who don't fall into this camp, but unfortunately it isn't the majority.
 
That is a great question. For me personally, I will NEVER support any Republican again that ever caved, despised Trump behind the scenes, but cowardly fell in line to Trump and MAGA for their personal political security.

Trump is ultimately to blame for his own actions. Clueless MAGA types are just that and will never change regardless.

Here are some examples....

When McConnell stood up and called out Trump after J6. I respected him. After he caved and pledged support for Trump (who hates Mitch), I would never vote for that guy again. Of course he is done now anyway.

Same for McCarthy, Lindsey Graham and all the cowards.

I believed in Nilki Haley, but as soon as she was done, she covered her ass by endorsing Trump. Sununu talked a good game. but in the end he caved also.

Kemp, I respect for doing the right thing and pushing back against Trump's claims.
Trump dogs him constantly and he pushes back, but at the end of the day, will support him simply because of the (R). No respect for that. Pence the same.

That leaves, as far as I know, Kasich (my favorite Pub anyway), Kinzinger, and Cheney who is too far right for me. But I respect the hell out of her ethics and honesty.

And of course all the current and former Pubs that have joined the "Republicans for Harris group." I would support many of them if I knew their politics also.
Well said. I could have written that entire post. A pox on all who caved to Trump.
 
There was compromise in those days and the voters appreciated that the two sides talked. Remember the Blue Dog Democrats and the moderate Republicans. That was the sausage.
There were also the segregationist New Deal Democrats who lorded over Washington for decades.

Americans DID NOT see the sausage being made. Junior senators and junior congressmen didn’t see the sausage being made.

The NC Legislature was ruled by 3-15 men for most of the 20th and 21st centuries - those men changed as the years went by; but, the Legislature was ruled by a tiny club.

We citizens definitely didn’t see deals cut, mixed, and baked.
 
No offense taken whatsoever.

I’ve thought a lot about this over the years.

It all boils down to being ignorant, a follower, and not building/examining my personal worldview.

I’ve never been the smartest guy, but I’ve always been very driven and open to change.

There have been multiple things over the years that have helped to direct my life, my beliefs, and the issues I support.

In my mid 20’s I recall reading an article that fully agreed with my opinion, at the time, regarding climate change. I brought up that article in a discussion and others in the discussion provided me information and evidence that the article was incorrect. I was honestly embarrassed, and it made me realize that I could not accept anything at face value. I had to read and make an effort to ensure that the information I trusted was sound and factual. I became more of a skeptic and less accepting without proof.

Then there was the realization that I needed to better myself to be successful. I needed more education to be more competitive in the workplace and make more money. So, I went back to college and earned my bachelor's in computer science. Writing papers on welfare for a political science class and other research for my humanities classes helped me to continue to grow in my beliefs and opinions of others. It helped me begin to understand the lies I was accepting about welfare, socialism, and the whole self-sufficiency mythology.

I was never a racist or homophobe, but I wasn’t anti-racism or anti-homophobe either. The biggest challenge to my life and my worldview came from working with my daughter through her years of struggles. That’s a bigger discussion for another day, but the one thing that is forever burned into my being is the realization that even though I was not homophobic, I didn’t make my beliefs known to my children. This is a regret I will carry forever as it was an integral part of my daughter’s issues. During discussions and counseling she told me and my wife that she knew she was gay and because of the constant messaging she was receiving from the church and our Christian friends, she felt that there was something wrong with her to make her gay. She assumed, since I had never voiced my beliefs, that my beliefs were in line with those of the church and our friends. What she didn’t know was that my beliefs were not in align with the bigoted homophobic beliefs of the church and it was my fault that I was too much of a follower to tell my children my beliefs regarding this subject. In addition, during this period, there was such an outpouring of grace, compassion, and support for my family. I had never experienced such support in my life. It further influenced my views about self-sufficiency and helped me to continue to grow in being more empathetic toward people in need and more understanding of people who are different than I am.

These things all worked together over the years to change my worldview and to show me that I couldn’t simply sit back and be neutral in regard to subjects of acceptance, personal freedoms, and discrimination. I had to, at a minimum, express my opinion and support people’s right to be themselves.

I was growing weary of the positions of the right, but when trump became the candidate for the 2016 presidential race, I knew I could not vote for him. Him personally, at this point it wasn’t policy, it was that I knew he was a piece of shit and had always been a piece of shit. But history and roots are strong and hard to overcome. Even with growth in so many areas, I still wasn’t able to vote for Hillary. I voted for a third party. My wife, who is normally ahead of me, voted for Hillary that year.

Over the next few years, the constant actions of trump, the belittling or people, the negativity toward marginalized groups and the acceptance of trump by so many I knew, who had previously claimed to be accepting but now demonstrated that they were just suppressing their racism, bigotry, and homophobia pushed me to be even more open about my positions. I was very vocal about wanting trump out in the 2020 election and open about my support for issues of marginalized groups and their fight for equality.

My daughter continued to help me grow and understand. I could see there is no agenda, that she and other LBGTQ people are pursuing, rather they simply want the same opportunity to pursue their best life and love and share love just as any other adult would. Without labels our artificial boundaries or the constraint of what others see as “Normal”.

As life goes on, I still work to tear down the barriers of ignorance that I have and to understand that I have been so fortunate to have the opportunities that I have had.
Hall of Fame poasting. Thanks for sharing @UNCatTech
 
Has Biden rescinded those tariffs? Nope..
Input costs for farmers have skyrocketed and commodity prices have cratered. I'll be surprised if any farmers vote D in the Presidential election.
 
Has Biden rescinded those tariffs? Nope..
Input costs for farmers have skyrocketed and commodity prices have cratered. I'll be surprised if any farmers vote D in the Presidential election.
Not one single farmer!?!?
 
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