Roll Call: Who is voting early? Who is waiting til Nov. 5 (and why?)

HeelYeah2012 said:
That’s not how I see it but you’re welcome to vote your conscience. Ok to disagree. But it seems like a silly thing to be against.
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It seems to me to be a silly thing when we already have laws that accomplish the same thing. Why not have a constitutional amendment that speed limits in the state cannot exceed 70 miles per hour? The impact would be the same as this stupid amendment, which is simply political theater for dumb people.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I guess this goes to show you that it’s hard to have a large consensus on anything in politics. For whatever it’s worth, with the wording of that amendment I’m expecting it to pass with relative ease. Maybe not the high degree of consensus that I was expecting. But can’t imagine 50+% of people voting no for a proposal that only legal citizens be able to vote…..I agree it’s somewhat redundant but also just seems like such common sense.

Are Democrats encouraging their voters to vote no on the amendment?
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I voted against the amendment because it was put on the ballot as a political stunt to mislead voters into thinking "illegal migrants" were currently allowed to vote.

It's not a matter of common sense to vote for this trope; It's a matter of voting for this bs amendment out of ignorance
 
Paine said:
I expect it to pass as well because of the wording and most people won’t look into it enough to care what the consequences may be.

I haven’t seen any messaging from the NC Democratic Party specifically to vote no, but I haven’t sought it out either.
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This^
The Dems in my county passed out a sample ballot with all the Dem candidates marked accordingly but they didn’t have anything marked yay or nay for the amendment, as if to say: “whatever, we don’t care one way or another.”
 
Took my dad to vote this weekend, couldn't find his license but had it on my phone. Nope, gotta have a physical ID. Luckily, the polling place was at the Board of Elections building so we walked in and they issued him a voter card, good for 10 years. Unfortunately, when we went back to the polling place it was 3:01 and they closed at 3:00. We'll get back sometime this week...
 
Centerpiece said:
The Dems in my county passed out a sample ballot with all the Dem candidates marked accordingly but they didn’t have anything marked yay or nay for the amendment, as if to say: “whatever, we don’t care one way or another.”
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Somebody handed me a Repub sample ballot, which was the first time I saw the "amendment," I saw that they had marked it yes so I knew I'd be voting no...
 
Centerpiece said:
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The Dems in my county passed out a sample ballot with all the Dem candidates marked accordingly but they didn’t have anything marked yay or nay for the amendment, as if to say: “whatever, we don’t care one way or another.”
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My hunch on that is that they don't want to turn the ballot measure into a campaign issue any more than it has to be. The ballot measure is already pointless and the Pubs would love for the Democratic Party to come out forcefully against it so they can say, "See, the Democrats don't want to protect against voting by illegal aliens!"
 
hedge said:
NC ACLU's primer on the ballot amendment:

www.acluofnorthcarolina.org

Vote No on NC's Citizens-Only Ballot Measure

This year's ballot measure to change the wording of the state constitution is unnecessary and will not change the law. This pointless bill aims to confuse voters, sow distrust in our elections, and stir up anti-immigrant rhetoric.
www.acluofnorthcarolina.org www.acluofnorthcarolina.org
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I don't think it's even that complicated. The GOP wants to be able to say that X% of North Carolinians, almost all Dems, voted against preventing noncitizens from voting. It's a cynical ploy, to which I say fuck 'em. There's no universe in which NC GOPers will decline to exploit the most vulnerable among us for political gain, so I voted no.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
There is nothing partisan about people needing to be citizens ages 18 and up in order to vote. The fact this is considered partisan highlights why Democrats poll so poorly on immigration.

And yeah, if there was an amendment that said drunk driving or rape was bad, I wouldn’t twist myself in a pretzel to find a way to oppose it.
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Do you enjoy being obtuse or is it unintentional? Literally nobody has said it is partisan to think that voting should be limited to citizens. The partisan accusation relates to using the constitution of the state as the equivalent of toilet paper to be modified at whim simply as a means to gin up angst and misinformation.

Fact... voting by non citizens under the age of 18 is already illegal.

Fact.... nobody from either party in NC has proposed changing that.

Now, explain the need for the Amendment. What is the purpose?
 
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125,000 in person here in Harris County [primarily Houston], Texas yesterday on the first of 12 days of early voting with another 25,000 mail in ballots received. We've got around 2.6 million registered voters in the County give or take.
 
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