Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations” | Trump demands Ukraine capitulate by Thanksgiving

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I have a feeling we’re going to learn Vance is the saboteur in all of this, leaking information and manipulating Trump for Russia’s benefit.
I tend to agree with this and the hands up Vance’s pucker hole originate in Silicon Valley. Those tech oligarchs see Russian concentration of wealth as a step towards their tech statism. They do not want to see the defeat of the closest version of their utopia.
 
I tend to agree with this and the hands up Vance’s pucker hole originate in Silicon Valley. Those tech oligarchs see Russian concentration of wealth as a step towards their tech statism. They do not want to see the defeat of the closest version of their utopia.


They're all a bunch of GD traitors... but hey, a true capitalist has no country.
 
This is all such a predictable shitshow. Trump is so determined to "make a deal" that he's just swinging wildly between the two poles, with no actual progress being made. He'll talk to the Russians and come up with a peace plan that's an absolute nonstarter for the Ukranians. Then he'll meet with the Ukrainians and modify the peace plan in a way that's an absolute nonstarter for the Russians. Rinse and repeat.

The reality is that, barring a major change to the status quo, Russia will never agree to a plan that's acceptable to Ukraine, and Ukraine will never agree to a deal that's acceptable to Russia. The only way that changes is if one side or the other gets a significant military advantage. But instead of doing things that could give such an advantage to the non-genocidal side in this fight, Trump is threatening to remove the support that has been maintaining the status quo.

In short, all of this "dealmaking" is a waste of time. The only way a deal gets done is if things change significantly on the front lines. And Trump's policies are making it far more likely that such a change will benefit Russia, which is counter to the interests of the rest of the world.
 
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