Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

[Duke Mu]

Why do I get the feeling if Trump was "tough" with Putin and some sort of military action was used, Trump would be labeled a warmonger? The left will complain just to complain.

"What if a bomb blew up over his head?"

Trump's obvious fear of Putin is obvious. Putin has the goods on Trump. Plus Trump is an asset.

This isn't a left vs. right (traditional) issue. Trump was a long-time Democrat and HRC supporter. But he's racist, narcissistic, vindictive. He airs and keeps grievances longer than a Sicilian mobster. More racist than Archie Bunker (both from OG Queens) He saw opportunies to get back at Obama. Then to take advantage of a growing Tea Party, alt-white wing of the GOP, the next generation of Nixon's Dixiecrats leveraged in the Southern Strategy.

The Tea Party began as a Ron Paul inspired libertarian movement. But then a half white Obama entered the WHITE house...and the Tea Party became racist and more nihilistic. Bannon's alt-right descendants are even more nihlistic and simply enjoy watching the country burn...then reserve what's left for whites only.

Trump is a combination of grifter, conman, narcissist, nihilist. Trump also has major daddy, granddaddy, and self-destructive issues.

The problem is that the Dems have really had no viable NATIONAL LEADERSHIP since 2016. None. Kamala attempted to fill the void, but was disarmed by her own (really Biden's) campaign...plus the hurricane disinformation firehose.. No Obama. No Clinton. No JFK or RFK, Sr.

This is REALITY vs. Whatever Trump makes up for Transactional Reasons.

Because there is no Democratic Leadership and Trump's D-list Apprentice Character seemed real to the MAGA masses.

...they drink the sand because they don't know the difference.

oh, and I am/was a Reagan Republican. I Know the Difference!

 

[SnoopRob]

Why do I get the feeling if Trump was "tough" with Putin and some sort of military action was used, Trump would be labeled a warmonger? The left will complain just to complain.

Because you're a dumbass who isn't content to be wrong in the real world, now you need to be wrong in hypotheticals, as well.

 

[dukeman92]

JFC you people are so brainwashed.

They're trained to hate everything about Dems/the left and then they accuse us of the same malfeasance. Every accusation is an omission.

 

[Healing]

I wonder why Susan Rice is a target?

 

[Duke Mu]

Dems need a Zelenskyy to step up. So far, only JB Pritzger and Jasmine Crockett have thrown the feces back at the crazy orange chimp.

 

[finesse]

JFC you people are so brainwashed.

Not much to wash. Cuts down on cost and you can do several with the same syringe.

 

[Duke Mu]

I wonder why Susan Rice is a target?

I like her feistiness. Yeah, we wonder why. :laughcry

 

[CFordUNC]

 

[SnoopRob]

Yeah, they know Trump's being shitty, but they're trying to find a way to convince themselves that Zelensky "deserves" it.

 

[StrangePackage]

Yeah, they know Trump's being shitty, but they're trying to find a way to convince themselves that Zelensky "deserves" it.

Most Trump supporters give off big "What was she wearing" energy.

 

[Duke Mu]

Yeah, they know Trump's being shitty, but they're trying to find a way to convince themselves that Zelensky "deserves" it.

She dressed too "slutty" and deserved it.

 

[Silence Dogood]

Yeah, they know Trump's being shitty, but they're trying to find a way to convince themselves that Zelensky "deserves" it.

Be more specific

 

[farce©]

Be more specific

Start by admitting that this is Putin’s war. Putin invaded Ukraine and can stop the war at any time by leaving Ukraine. Full stop. No ifs, ands, or buts.

If we can’t agree on that simple premise there is no need for further discussion.

 

[SnoopRob]

Be more specific

Trump is siding with the aggressor over our ally in this war and everyone with 2 functioning brain cells can deduce this. Despite this, Zelensky came to the WH to try to work out a way forward that allows him to serve his people by keeping American support flowing at some level. Trump and Vance decided that Zelensky continuing to try to work with the US via mineral rights wasn't enough and had to try to humiliate Zelensky in front of the media to put him in his place. But when Zelensky refused to go along with his own humiliation and very gently pushed back with a correct statement/question, Trump & Vance lost their minds and acted like fools.

But because Republicans can't admit that Trump and Vance are shitty people doing shitty things, they must also pretend that Zelensky very gently pushing back on Trump & Vance's lies and efforts to humiliate him is enough that Zelensky and Ukraine deserve the shitty things that Trump and Vance do.

 

[nycfan]

Video of Trump’s later complaint about Zelensky dissing Putin from yesterday:

 

[theel4life]

Video of Trump’s later complaint about Zelensky dissing Putin from yesterday:

If people can’t see Trump is compromised by Putin you are a fucking idiot.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Betting that the man with the thinnest skin in the world would commit US troops and weapons to helping Russia over vengeance with the worst case scenario being that the rest of the world abandons them as global leader is pretty win-win for Putin.

Not if this forces Europe to unify.

 

[donbosco]

If people can’t see Trump is compromised by Putin you are a fucking idiot.

Then there is the "see it" but can't "admit it."

What are those folks?

 

[SnoopRob]

Video of Trump’s later complaint about Zelensky dissing Putin from yesterday:

Good thing Brian added Georgia to that hypothetical or I might have just agreed to let Putin have it.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Video of Trump’s later complaint about Zelensky dissing Putin from yesterday:

That analogy is incomplete.

A better one would be Russia invading Florida a decade ago. Then they sign a peace treaty only to go back on it years later and invade Georgia and S Carolina on their way up to DC. A stalemate ensues and a foreign leader who provides aid suggests a peace deal where Russia gets to keep all of their gains, US turns over mineral rights to the supporting country, and that country provides absolutely no guarantee of support if Putin again reneges on the deal.