Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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Silence Dogood said:
Majority of people think their govt doesn't represent them. Remember Trump was very open on what he would do and people voted for it.
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Especially now people don't feel this government represents them. That's why GOP congressmen are getting booed off the stage at their town halls in their deep red districts. Nobody supports what Elon Musk and his DOGE stooges are doing.

And I recall Trump disavowing any knowledge of Project 2025. He claimed he didn't know about it and had never heard of it. Then he appointed most of its authors to positions in his administration and started implementing "a program he had never heard of." So no, Trump didn't campaign on a bunch a teenage hackers destroying our government institutions and he didn't campaign on capitulating to Putin in Europe before negotiations even started.

You need to start taking that Prevagen stuff, your memory seems to be declining a bit.
 
Probably already posted, but I was almost completely off line yesterday.

Zelenskyy Says He’ll Sign Minerals Deal And Urges US To ‘Stand More Firmly’ For Ukraine After Oval Office Clash

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he is ready to sign a stalled minerals deal with the United States in a thread on X on Saturday, in which he also urged the United States to stand strongly behind Ukraine amid its war with Russia, one day after his meeting with President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance devolved into a near-shouting match.

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Zelenskyy Says He’ll Sign Minerals Deal And Urges US To ‘Stand More Firmly’ For Ukraine After Oval Office Clash

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy posted a lengthy thread on X Saturday, stating he would sign the minerals deal, but said the Ukrainian people “need to know that America is on our side.”
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Slight difference in the 1905 Russo-Japanese War and the 21st century Russo-Ukrainian War.

Japan flat-out kicked Russia’s ass; the Russo-Ukrainian War is a stalemate.

One similarity - in both wars, the Russians lost a lot of ships and the ability to project naval power in two bodies of water.
 
ZenMode said:
Probably already posted, but I was almost completely off line yesterday.

Zelenskyy Says He’ll Sign Minerals Deal And Urges US To ‘Stand More Firmly’ For Ukraine After Oval Office Clash

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he is ready to sign a stalled minerals deal with the United States in a thread on X on Saturday, in which he also urged the United States to stand strongly behind Ukraine amid its war with Russia, one day after his meeting with President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance devolved into a near-shouting match.

www.forbes.com

Zelenskyy Says He’ll Sign Minerals Deal And Urges US To ‘Stand More Firmly’ For Ukraine After Oval Office Clash

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy posted a lengthy thread on X Saturday, stating he would sign the minerals deal, but said the Ukrainian people “need to know that America is on our side.”
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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Let me repeat: There will be no minerals deal signed with the Ukraine. There never was going to be one. Trump floated the deal to Zelenskyy hoping to insult him enough to end negotiations in order for Trump to blame Zelenskyy for breaking relations with the U.S.

When Zelenskyy called his bluff by indicating he’d sign such a deal, Trump and his dancing monkey JD staged an ambush in order to NOT sign the deal.

Trump doesn’t want to sign one because he knows he’ll get the minerals by signing a back-door deal with Putin instead to pull all funding and resources out of Ukraine.

He’ll allow Putin to overrun Ukraine, and will accept any table scraps Putin throws him from what’s left of the country.

And Zelenskyy knows this, which is why he continues to debase himself for his country by agreeing to sign the deal no matter how horribly he’s treated by Trump. He’ll continue to call Trump’s bluff.

Trump’s next move will be to proclaim no deal until Zelenskyy steps down.
 
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Will the MAGA cult ever tire from having to constantly defend their God-King? At least now they've taken off the mask. They've made it abundantly clear that they value Dear Leader more than they value the Constitution, the country and their friends and family. Total and absolute devotion.

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Silence Dogood said:
Relax. When people do what you're doing its a sign they don't like being exposed or the truth they hear is offensive. Its always the left calling for bans, so odd.
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lmaooooo.

your side attempts to whitewash/delete/ban entire decades of history that you don't like. and genders. and sexualities. and books about anything that you don't like - women or minorities or the lgbtq community or slavery, jim crow, civil rights, etc. etc. etc.

the list of things y'all are scared of and want to ban is literally endless.
 
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Sounds like Z wasn't there for a deal anyways but to cozy up to politicians and continue the money train
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Completely regardless of politics, you need to take a look in the mirror and do some introspection. Ask yourself why you are so willing to support the one singular country in the world who hates the United States of America more than anyone else, along with revulsion of everything for which we stand. Ask yourself why you are so eager to defend the one country that has been the biggest perpetual nemesis and thorn in the side of the United States over the last 80 years. Then, ask yourself why you believe that the leader of a country who was invaded, bombed, plundered, raped, and pillaged completely unprovoked, doesn't have the right to do whatever it takes to garner the support necessary to help his country repel those invaders.

Forget about liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats. Forget about Trump, Biden, Obama, whomever. Just ask yourself why you are so willing to gargle Russian propaganda so eagerly, and why you are going to the mat to defend the one country in the world who sees the destruction of America and the West as its lone mission.
 
CFordUNC said:
Completely regardless of politics, you need to take a look in the mirror and do some introspection. Ask yourself why you are so willing to support the one singular country in the world who hates the United States of America more than anyone else, along with revulsion of everything for which we stand. Ask yourself why you are so eager to defend the one country that has been the biggest perpetual nemesis and thorn in the side of the United States over the last 80 years. Then, ask yourself why you believe that the leader of a country who was invaded, bombed, plundered, raped, and pillaged completely unprovoked, doesn't have the right to do whatever it takes to garner the support necessary to help his country repel those invaders.

Forget about liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats. Forget about Trump, Biden, Obama, whomever. Just ask yourself why you are so willing to gargle Russian propaganda so eagerly.
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I'm simply advocating an end to the war. I understand Russia as a adversary and as such if you want peace you don't make threats. There's been no negotiations with Russia, its time we try. Thats it. Quit making this so complicated
 
Silence Dogood said:
I'm simply advocating an end to the war. I understand Russia as an adversary and as such if you want peace you don't make threats. There's been no negotiations with Russia, its time we try. Thats it. Quit making this so complicated
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Ah yes, I remember the type of “negotiation” that is so effective with an aggressive dictator looking to expand his territory. It worked so well for Neville Chamberlain in the 30’s. Thank goodness that we were able to appease Hitler enough that he promised no more attacks against other countries. I cringe to think what would have happened if that type of appeasement didn’t actually work.
 
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