Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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Healing said:
My understanding is the Doolittle raid resulted in about 250k Chinese deaths, as reprisal. Hopefully Putin doesn’t have the resources for similar atrocities (nukes aside 😬).
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Good point. I should've remembered that.
 
Thinking back to Trump telling Zelensky he doesn't have the cards.............ooopps. Well you just never know what cards someone has till they play them. Ukraine will make peace on its own schedule and not on Trump's . So no need for anyone to demand that Ukraine make a peace settlement.

Ukraine's got this.
 
BTW, Russians and Russian supporting Americans comparing this Ukrainian attack to Pearl Harbor are outrageous.

If Russia surprise attacked a United States military base because we are providing support to Ukraine, that would be like Pearl Harbor.

Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine defended itself. Ukraine agreed to an unconditional cease fire. In response, Russia bombed civilians in Ukraine and delayed meaningful peace talks. So Ukraine attacked military targets inside Russia to disable equipment being used by an invader to wage war on Ukraine. Zero comparison to Pearl Harbor (except maybe to some extent the cost of damage done?).
 
Russia doesn't deal well with embarrassment. Heads will roll. It will be interesting to see if Ukraine helps steer the rolling process toward undermining key folks who Putin depends on. Perhaps leaking information that would lead to suspicion. Doesn't have to be accurate, just plausible. I am sure they have already thought about it.
 
nycfan said:
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That strikes me as a completely reasonable response to Russia's last absurd proposal. It's not something that could get a deal done, of course, but it communicates Ukraine will not cave. Between the timing of that brilliant drone attack and this response, I'm loving what we're seeing from Ukraine right now. All the Russia-loving MAGAs who have been telling us Ukraine is doomed can suck it.
 
lawtig02 said:
That strikes me as a completely reasonable response to Russia's last absurd proposal. It's not something that could get a deal done, of course, but it communicates Ukraine will not cave. Between the timing of that brilliant drone attack and this response, I'm loving what we're seeing from Ukraine right now. All the Russia-loving MAGAs who have been telling us Ukraine is doomed can suck it.
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Zelensky to Putin and Trump: FAFO
 
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