Russia - US “Ukraine peace negotiations”

I have it on good authority that Zelenskyy personally took over the Russian Army and led a tank brigade into Ukraine. Putin was as surprised as anyone and was so upset he began firing missiles into civilian targets to make things right.
 
Purple Nurple said:
When your hat in hand its probably not a good idea to insult the one your begging.
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Trump isn't going to give him anything anyways. There's no sense trying to suck up to Putin's puppet.

If I were Zelensky, I'd call Trump's bluff. Since Trump has proven that facts don't matter, as Zelensky I'd call a press conference immediately and say something along the lines of, "I am very gracious of President Trump's offer to send American soldiers to Ukraine to act as peacekeeping forces. He even gave me his personal assurances that these troops would not hesitate to engage the Russians in combat."
 
Purple Nurple said:
Sorry to disappoint, but I’ve never cast a vote for trump. Most reasonable people wouldn’t insult someone you relied on for help. You may not like it, but you eat it for the greater good. Do you think it’s a good strategy?
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Zelensky has never relief on Trump for help. Zelensky has relied on the United States and Europe for help. The United States as we know it no longer exists. He has no reason to try and appease Putin's agent in Washington.
 
Purple Nurple said:
Sorry to disappoint, but I’ve never cast a vote for trump. Most reasonable people wouldn’t insult someone you relied on for help. You may not like it, but you eat it for the greater good. Do you think it’s a good strategy?
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My apologies. I forgot you are jorts. I confuse your new username with a Trumper who posts here. I will delete.
 
If Trump is Putin’s puppet, then why has sec Bessent presented the deal he has? It puts the US in partnership with Ukraine and right on Russia’s doorstep. Good faith question. I honestly haven’t been keeping up with the minutiae of the Trump admin’s movements.
 
Purple Nurple said:
Sorry to disappoint, but I’ve never cast a vote for trump. Most reasonable people wouldn’t insult someone you relied on for help. You may not like it, but you eat it for the greater good. Do you think it’s a good strategy?
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Zelenskyy has been engaging with Trump for years. He's ignored the bullshit. He's pretended as if Trump is a responsible leader. He's sanewashed Trump. He has been dutifully respectful all this time and look at where it's gotten him.

He is more than justified in doing this, and it can't go worse than the flatter Trump strategy. Why shouldn't he finally speak his mind?
 
Purple Nurple said:
If Trump is Putin’s puppet, then why has sec Bessent presented the deal he has? It puts the US in partnership with Ukraine and right on Russia’s doorstep. Good faith question. I honestly haven’t been keeping up with the minutiae of the Trump admin’s movements.
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Bessent's plan included Ukraine signing 50% of its mineral rights over to the US, after which the US might put soldiers on the ground in Ukraine to protect our rare earth minerals. Zelensky politely declined to sign the draft. Since Zelinsky didn't go for Trump's extortion, Trump is now shitting on him.

Why is the Treasury Secretary involved in direct foreign policy negotiations? Why is the Sec of Defense taking Ukraine bargaining chips off the table before negotiations even begin? Why is the Vice President publicly scolding our NATO allies over Ukraine? Now Rubio is in Saudi Arabia negotiating with the Russians while other members of the Administration undercut him.

I think the truth is no one speaks for Trump. Trump outlined his plan yesterday when he said Ukraine started the war. Bessent, Hegseth, Rubio, Vance, et al are insignificant players. The only thing that matters is Trump.

It's nice to have a king, isn't it?
 
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farce© said:
Bessent's plan included Ukraine signing 50% of its mineral rights over to the US, after which the USS might put soldiers on the ground in Ukraine to protect our rare earth minerals. Zelensky politely declined to sign the draft. Since Zelinsky didn't go for Trump's extortion, Trump is now shitting on him.

Why is the Treasury Secretary involved in direct foreign policy negotiations? Why is the Sec of Defense taking Ukraine bargaining chips off the table before negotiations even begin? Why is the Vice President publicly scolding our NATO allies over Ukraine? Now Rubio is in Saudi Arabia negotiating with the Russians while other members of the Administration undercut him.

I think the truth is no one speaks for Trump. Trump outlined his plan yesterday when he said Ukraine started the war. Bessent, Hegseth, Rubio, Vance, et al are insignificant players. The only thing that matters is Trump.

It's nice to have a king, isn't it?
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It’s the second time Zelensky didn’t agree to Trump’s extortion.
 
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