Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

[mpaer]

I have a question
Ae we suppossed to get all these minerals from Ukraine for free?

 

[finesse]

And complaining about how he dressed as compared to Brother Muskrat Love.

 

[altmin]

It’s sadly ironic that MAGAts are now on the warpath of wanting the United States to leave NATO, when the United States is the only NATO nation to have ever invoked Article 5, and in fact, Ukraine sent troops to both Afghanistan and Iraq on our behalf- losing around 20 KIA- and yet we have not shed a single drop of American blood in Ukraine.

MAGAs being selfish? Well I for one am shocked.

 

[wmheel1287]

Interesting that the pinnacle of liberal presidents, Barrack Obama, said exactly the opposite.

President Obama said that Democrats are the party of abandoning friends and capitulating to enemies? I'm going to need to see that.

 

[nycfan]

 

[TarHeeledTexan]

No. Especially if the owner of the home had something else of value.

A true Libertarian at heart. Which means, heartless.

 

[ZenMode]

President Obama said that Democrats are the party of abandoning friends and capitulating to enemies? I'm going to need to see that.

Did you say those words? No. Did he make it clear that protecting Ukraine from Russia was unimportant to the US? Yes.

He also said, in a debate with Romney, that being concerned about Russia was a foreign policy view from the '80s.
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[finesse]

Well, I guess the Republicans made a liar out of him when they became Russian puppets. Of, course, that makes your argument an anachronism since that wasn't the case when he said it.

 

[altmin]

Speculation a US-less NATO is being planned

UK and France to work with Ukraine on peace plan, Starmer says, as leaders arrive for major London summit – live

Keir Starmer hopes peace plan can get ‘back on track’ after disastrous White House meeting between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy

www.theguardian.com

More leaders have now arrived at Lancaster House, including European Commission Ursula von der Leyen, outgoing German chancellor Olaf Scholz, Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, and Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen…
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Leaders of Turkey, the Netherlands, Romania, Finland, and Norway are also in.
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Important for Baltics to be involved, Latvia's Siliņa says in a pointed remark after call with Starmer​

Latvian prime minister Evika Siliņa has now offered her take on the Baltic leaders’ call with Keir Starmer too.

Here is what she said (note a pointed reference to the importance of the Baltics being involved, given they didn’t get an invite to the summit):

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Sweden’s Ulf Kristersson is the latest leader to enter Lancaster House,
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Spanish prime minister Pedro Sánchez is the last leader to arrive and I think we now have a full house at Lancaster House as the talks between world leaders get under way.

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It is also an important place in the context of Nato: it is in Lancaster House where foreign ministers of the 12 founding nations discussed the aims, objectives and structure of the organisation in 1950, as UK foreign ministry noted.

 

[Zoo_View]

I'm really finding it difficult not to insult your lack of intelligence. You really don't have a fucking clue about anything. Biden's plan was literally working as well as any plan could possibly work. He was dismantling Russia's military without spending a single American life. All it was costing him was outdated American munitions and weapons, which btw, we were being paid to produce. Meanwhile, Russia was slamming itself repeatedly into a wall, taking more casualties to its military, and the world was turning against Putin by the day as we ramped up political pressure on them.

And then Trump got involved from afar, Republicans began balking at helping Ukraine, and it became more difficult to get them the help they needed to continue the fight. And now with Trump in office, he's not only halted all aid, he's actually trying to paint Ukraine as the bad guys in this conflict.

What took place in the Oval Office the other day was one of the most embarrassing, disgusting, and amateurish things I'd ever seen from a sitting US President in a diplomatic setting. Trump planned this ambush out well in advance, both due to his idolatry of that evil dictator Putin and his lingering anger at Zelensky for the phone call that let to his first impeachment years ago. You could see it on Marco Rubio's face. It was a complete and utter travesty.

Trump never intended to sign a minerals deal to continue to aid Ukraine. It was never going to happen. What he IS going to do is pull all aid for Ukraine, allow Russia to finish their conquest of the country, and then split the minerals and resources with Putin as they strip mine what's left of it.

We are the bad guys in the world now. We are on the side of dictators and despots. And it's due to dumb fucks like you being allowed to vote.

If Putin successfully takes all of Ukraine, why would he share anything with the US?

 

[WaynetheDrain]

If Putin successfully takes all of Ukraine, why would he share anything with the US?

You know how you sometimes grill up a nice juicy steak for dinner, and then your dog gets right up under you while eating and stares at you with those expectant dog eyes hoping for a nibble, so you give him some table scraps as a treat?

Well, Putin's at the table, and Trump is the dog kneeling next to him, hoping for some scraps.

 

[heelinhell]

I have to admit that it is poor form to say "negative things" about a dictator who invaded your country and has killed thousands of your citizens.

That said, I'm much more upset that Zelensky did not wear a suit when meeting with the King of England...so much disrespect

 

[CRHeel94]

After Ukraine, I'm guessing the Baltics are next.

 

[Zoo_View]

You know how you sometimes grill up a nice juicy steak for dinner, and then your dog gets right up under you while eating and stares at you with those expectant dog eyes hoping for a nibble, so you give him some table scraps as a treat?

Well, Putin's at the table, and Trump is the dog kneeling next to him, hoping for some scraps.

Putin kicks dogs that beg.

 

[Patb78]

After Ukraine, I'm guessing the Baltics are next.

For sure.

 

[heelinhell]

Gotta give Tulsi credit...

Despite over 80% of Americans disapproving Putin, she remains a steadfast unapologetic Russian asset.

Fox News host nails Tulsi Gabbard: 'Russia celebrating' Trump's Zelensky snub

Fox News host Shannon Bream confronted Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard because Russia's government was "celebrating" after U.S. President Donald Trump abruptly ended Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's White House visit. During an interview on Fox News Sunday, Bream...

www.rawstory.com

 

[UNCatTech]

Outspoken Democrats have been pretty boisterous about NOT working with Pubs. They control all three branches of government. Let them find their own votes.

Do we want that? The democrats talk about working together, I believe they need to demonstrate that they are better than the pubs and are willing to work together.

 

[finesse]

Do we want that? The democrats talk about working together, I believe they need to demonstrate that they are better than the pubs and are willing to work together.

Cooperate if they ask nicely and offer something in return. Don't volunteer and don't make it easy. That's still better than the Republicans have done this century.

 

[Patb78]

Cooperate if they ask nicely and offer something in return. Don't volunteer and don't make it easy. That's still better than the Republicans have done this century.

Agree. And let them know they better act in good faith. Trump has a well documented history of not doing that.

 

[altmin]

Do we want that? The democrats talk about working together, I believe they need to demonstrate that they are better than the pubs and are willing to work together.

No point in working together to pass bills that gut the government and screw the people.