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So-called Anti-Woke, Anti-DEI policy catch-all

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TarSpiel said:
To be fair, a lot of that was probably because people lived on farms and in the country prohibitively far from established churches
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As I pointed out, since I joined a church that was founded in Beautancus, about as country as it got even in the 1950s, in 1757, I'm not sure that I'm buying that so much. That's in one of the states and in that time period of single figure church attendance. It's not like there were much in the form of rules or numbers required or weekly meetings. The first two churches my stepfather preached at after seminary in 1960 were in Sampson County and one was quarter time and one was half time and they were fully accepted as members of the Southern Baptist Convention.

I won't claim that it wasn't any factor but a large one? Color me a skeptic. After all, the early Christians did it in what was ,much of the time, an actively hostile environment.
 
Tarheeljoe said:
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I would enjoy listening to all of the posters here who have been very supportive of Trump 2.0's efforts to eliminate DEI and diversity and equity initiatives to explain how this is not just blatant bigotry and whites-only racism. And this is hardly the only example - there are now many examples across many federal agencies and departments of deleting all mention of minorities and women from their websites, exhibits, displays, etc. And also of deleting anything celebrating or promoting any minority-themed holiday or event - Black History Month, Women's History Month, Gay Pride Month, etc. from their website. How in the world could anyone honestly argue at this point that this is not the result of blatant bigotry, racism, sexism, etc.?
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I would enjoy listening to all of the posters here who have been very supportive of Trump 2.0's efforts to eliminate DEI and diversity and equity initiatives to explain how this is not just blatant bigotry and whites-only racism. And this is hardly the only example - there are now many examples across many federal agencies and departments of deleting all mention of minorities and women from their websites, exhibits, displays, etc. And also of deleting anything celebrating or promoting any minority-themed holiday or event - Black History Month, Women's History Month, Gay Pride Month, etc. from their website. How in the world could anyone honestly argue at this point that this is not the result of blatant bigotry, racism, sexism, etc.?
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No, you really wouldn’t.
 

Navajo Code Talkers disappear from military websites after Trump DEI order​


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“… Asked about the missing pages, Pentagon Press Secretary John Ullyot replied in a statement: "As Secretary [Pete] Hegseth has said, DEI is dead at the Defense Department. ... We are pleased by the rapid compliance across the Department with the directive removing DEI content from all platforms." …”
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I would enjoy listening to all of the posters here who have been very supportive of Trump 2.0's efforts to eliminate DEI and diversity and equity initiatives to explain how this is not just blatant bigotry and whites-only racism. And this is hardly the only example - there are now many examples across many federal agencies and departments of deleting all mention of minorities and women from their websites, exhibits, displays, etc. And also of deleting anything celebrating or promoting any minority-themed holiday or event - Black History Month, Women's History Month, Gay Pride Month, etc. from their website. How in the world could anyone honestly argue at this point that this is not the result of blatant bigotry, racism, sexism, etc.?
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If you voted for Trump, you definitely support this.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I would enjoy listening to all of the posters here who have been very supportive of Trump 2.0's efforts to eliminate DEI and diversity and equity initiatives to explain how this is not just blatant bigotry and whites-only racism. And this is hardly the only example - there are now many examples across many federal agencies and departments of deleting all mention of minorities and women from their websites, exhibits, displays, etc. And also of deleting anything celebrating or promoting any minority-themed holiday or event - Black History Month, Women's History Month, Gay Pride Month, etc. from their website. How in the world could anyone honestly argue at this point that this is not the result of blatant bigotry, racism, sexism, etc.
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These actions are by liberal bureaucrats intent on proving the point that Trump’s anti DEI policies mean that virtually any historical reference to any minority is a violation of his policies. In other words, Trump won’t even let us teach history about blacks, as, etc.

It’s total BS but they’re overreacting on purpose to make their political,point.
 
Ramrouser said:
These actions are by liberal bureaucrats intent on proving the point that Trump’s anti DEI policies mean that virtually any historical reference to any minority is a violation of his policies. In other words, Trump won’t even let us teach history about blacks, as, etc.

It’s total BS but they’re overreacting on purpose to make their political,point.
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And Joe Biden is crashing the economy.
 
Ramrouser said:
These actions are by liberal bureaucrats intent on proving the point that Trump’s anti DEI policies mean that virtually any historical reference to any minority is a violation of his policies. In other words, Trump won’t even let us teach history about blacks, as, etc.

It’s total BS but they’re overreacting on purpose to make their political,point.
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You have a very fascinating obsession with blaming Democrats for Republican actions. Very odd.
 
CFordUNC said:
You have a very fascinating obsession with blaming Democrats for Republican actions. Very odd.
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I just had to un-ignore Rammy and read his justification for removing often celebrated black heroes, women heroes, Native American heroes and other minority heroes from government websites, public exhibits, etc. Like the disgraceful scrubbing from websites of any mention of black or other minority veterans buried at Arlington National Cemetery. To somehow blame Democratic "Deep State" government workers for doing it to make Trump look bad has got to be peak paranoid, batshit crazy, evidence free prime MAGA thinking. It's literally Dale Gribble-level stuff from King of the Hill.

The whole point of what Trump 2.0 has been doing with anti-DEI initiatives is to intimidate and bully government agencies into doing their bidding, and that means scrubbing those websites and anything else in their agencies or departments or cemeteries of anything celebrating minorities. Attacking DEI is literally attacking the vast racial and gender and ethnic and religious diversity of the country. To try and blame this on Democrats shows just how far down the rabbit hole Trumpers have gone, and there is no coming back for them, unfortunately. It really is a form of insanity and denial of reality - because the only way you can justify what Trump 2.0 is doing is to believe in vast conspiracies without any evidence to support you, believe that people who are proven liars are actually telling you the truth, and refuse to believe what you're seeing and hearing with your own lying eyes and ears.
 
Ramrouser said:
These actions are by liberal bureaucrats intent on proving the point that Trump’s anti DEI policies mean that virtually any historical reference to any minority is a violation of his policies. In other words, Trump won’t even let us teach history about blacks, as, etc.

It’s total BS but they’re overreacting on purpose to make their political,point.
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The Trump Administration agrees — they call it “malicious compliance”.

What they end up rescinding in all this tends to be very limited though.
 
Nothing whatsoever in Trump's policies is designed to limit teaching or promoting (for example) black history. It was ridiculous for the bureaucrats at the Air Force Academy to remove all references to the Tuskegee Airmen at the Academy. It was swiftly corrected as these heroes were a part of AMERICAN history. Yes, I am blaming liberal activists/bureaucrats for this issue because it happens to be true.

Limiting the scope of DEI programs does not equal erasing black history. Why must you assign the worst intent in everything this Administration (or its supporters) does? Do you not acknowledge that DEI programs needed to be curtailed and went too far? I'll admit that perhaps they were initially well intended but, in my opinion, ended up dividing us and wasting vast sums of money.
 
Ramrouser said:
Nothing whatsoever in Trump's policies is designed to limit teaching or promoting (for example) black history. It was ridiculous for the bureaucrats at the Air Force Academy to remove all references to the Tuskegee Airmen at the Academy. It was swiftly corrected as these heroes were a part of AMERICAN history. Yes, I am blaming liberal activists/bureaucrats for this issue because it happens to be true.

Limiting the scope of DEI programs does not equal erasing black history. Why must you assign the worst intent in everything this Administration (or its supporters) does? Do you not acknowledge that DEI programs needed to be curtailed and went too far? I'll admit that perhaps they were initially well intended but, in my opinion, ended up dividing us and wasting vast sums of money.
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Sure sure. These things are all clearly someone else's fault. You are on top of this.
 
nycfan said:

Arlington website scrubs bio of Lawrence Joel, Winston-Salem Medal of Honor winner​


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Arlington website scrubs bio of Lawrence Joel, Winston-Salem Medal of Honor winner

Changes to the cemetery's official website have also made it more difficult to learn of the bravery of another local Black Medal of Honor recipient, Henry Johnson. Johnson won the
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“A link to the biography and war-time heroics of Lawrence Joel is among those that have been scrubbed from the website of Arlington National Cemetery, a move that is part of the federal government's push to eliminate all references to diversity, equity and inclusion on its websites.

In addition, the changes to the cemetery's official website have also made it more difficult to learn of the bravery of another local Black Medal of Honor recipient, Henry Johnson.

Dozens of links on Arlington's official website have been unpublished over the last few weeks, including those leading to short biographies of prominent Black, women and Hispanic service members. Meanwhile, the links to notable politicians and sports figures remain active. …”

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Seems like malicious compliance.
 
Ramrouser said:
Nothing whatsoever in Trump's policies is designed to limit teaching or promoting (for example) black history. It was ridiculous for the bureaucrats at the Air Force Academy to remove all references to the Tuskegee Airmen at the Academy. It was swiftly corrected as these heroes were a part of AMERICAN history. Yes, I am blaming liberal activists/bureaucrats for this issue because it happens to be true.

Limiting the scope of DEI programs does not equal erasing black history. Why must you assign the worst intent in everything this Administration (or its supporters) does? Do you not acknowledge that DEI programs needed to be curtailed and went too far? I'll admit that perhaps they were initially well intended but, in my opinion, ended up dividing us and wasting vast sums of money.
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So far, I agree. There appears to be actions being done to make a statement. The statement may be that the EOs aren't clear or they are actions intended to make a political statement.

Black is not synonymous with DEI despite any political games being played stating otherwise.
 
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