Tariffs Catch-All | 4-week delays on many Mexico and CDN tariffs

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Someone should give Trump a list of the countries who have the highest tariffs, and ask if that is how he wants the US economy to look.

This craziness will continue until China or another country whacks US agriculture (like China did in 2017). That makes these shenanigans too painful for Trump in his Tariff Reality Show Game which keeps him on
TV and diverts from the illegal or cruel stuff going on
 
aGDevil2k said:
Canada threatening to shut off the power

I hope they do!!! The USA needs to feel pain. It's the only way out
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I think that's just the premier of Ontario. I don't know if he has the power to do it. Either way, I doubt he will. Sorry to disappoint you.

Canadians are well aware of the need to defeat MAGA. But they also realize it doesn't help them to start a war -- one that won't end so easily. It's like arguing with a spouse. If s/he is rude, you might say something rude back, and maybe the two of you are fighting -- but you have a line you won't cross, right? A line that would escalate the disagreement into a permanent break? Maybe it's yelling; maybe it's physical; whatever. You have a line.

Cutting off the power to the US would have a similar effect. If Canada makes people in Minnesota go without power over the weekend, that will engender bad will. That will tend to make Americans less likely to take Canada's side. It's not different than addressing terrorism. The people of Gaza didn't just toss out Hamas when Israel started a boycott 15 years ago or whenever. They rallied around Hamas, helped Hamas get established. Because people don't respond well if the outside hand weighs too heavily.
 


“… The 25% tariffs will apply to all imports from Mexico and Canada, with the exception of energy products like crude oil and natural gas, which will be tariffed at 10%. Canada said Monday night that it would impose retaliatory tariffs.

U.S. stocks fell in afternoon trading after Trump said the tariffs would move forward.

Trump previously delayed the tariffs for a month after those countries agreed to help address fentanyl-smuggling and migration, but his team has indicated he wasn’t yet satisfied with the progress of efforts to halt drug-smuggling, despite weeks of talks across the three governments.

Trump imposed an additional 10% in tariffs on goods from China, on top of 10% duties he imposed in February, and other tariffs already in place on the world’s second-largest economy.

China said it will take countermeasures to protect its interests, a Ministry of Commerce spokesperson said Tuesday morning Beijing time.

… Canadian officials met in Washington last week with U.S. border czar Tom Homan and members of Congress to press their case that Canada was tightening border security in response to Trump’s concerns about fentanyl and migration.

They left unsure what Trump wants, said Canada’s immigration minister, Marc Miller.

“It’s a moving target, and that’s frustrating,” he said….”
 

China Retaliates With Tariffs on Food, Agriculture Products​


China announced new tariffs on U.S. food and agricultural products, shortly after the U.S.’s additional levies on Chinese imports went into effect.

China said it is imposing an additional 15% tariff on U.S. chicken, wheat, corn and cotton products, and an additional 10% tariff on sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, seafood, fruits, vegetables and dairy products. The new tariffs from China are set to go into effect on March 10.

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China Retaliates With Tariffs on Food, Agriculture Products

China announced new tariffs on U.S. food and agricultural products, shortly after the U.S.’s additional levies on Chinese imports went into effect. China said it is imposing an additional 15% tariff on U.S. chicken, wheat, corn and cotton products, and an additional 10% tariff on sorghum, soybeans,
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superrific said:
I think that's just the premier of Ontario. I don't know if he has the power to do it. Either way, I doubt he will. Sorry to disappoint you.

Canadians are well aware of the need to defeat MAGA. But they also realize it doesn't help them to start a war -- one that won't end so easily. It's like arguing with a spouse. If s/he is rude, you might say something rude back, and maybe the two of you are fighting -- but you have a line you won't cross, right? A line that would escalate the disagreement into a permanent break? Maybe it's yelling; maybe it's physical; whatever. You have a line.

Cutting off the power to the US would have a similar effect. If Canada makes people in Minnesota go without power over the weekend, that will engender bad will. That will tend to make Americans less likely to take Canada's side. It's not different than addressing terrorism. The people of Gaza didn't just toss out Hamas when Israel started a boycott 15 years ago or whenever. They rallied around Hamas, helped Hamas get established. Because people don't respond well if the outside hand weighs too heavily.
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Ok that was a weird "sorry to disappoint you" for no reason. I don't know why you get snippy to friendly fire like that but oh well


They can keep it on but slap a 25% increase on it. Many ways to play the game
 
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Canada can huff, and puff, but if anything's going to blow down Donald Trump's house of tariffs it's going to be the reaction within the United States.

And there are signs of pushback.

The stock market is turning, economic sentiment is nosediving, the U.S. president's approval is receding, and American lawyers are preparing lawsuits.


Those factors will likely pack more punch in Washington than the $155 billion in counter-tariffs threatened by Canada. To put this number in perspective, it's a fraction of what American stock markets lost Monday.

The president caused an instant swoon with several simple words: "The tariffs — they're all set," Trump said on Monday, confirming a 25 per cent duty on most products was coming today, and that there was nothing Canada and Mexico could say to dissuade him.

Markets replied by quickly wiping out their entire gains for 2025, with the S&P 500 losing 1.76 per cent on the day, triggering hundreds of billions in losses in what Bloomberg's evening newsletter called, "the Trump sell-off."
 
aGDevil2k said:
Ok that was a weird "sorry to disappoint you" for no reason. I don't know why you get snippy to friendly fire like that but oh well
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I didn't mean it that way. I see now how it came across, but that wasn't my intent. I usually edit my posts to catch these sorts of things but that slipped through.
 
altmin said:

Canada can huff, and puff, but if anything's going to blow down Donald Trump's house of tariffs it's going to be the reaction within the United States.
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I don't understand what is being said here. The whole point of retaliatory tariffs is to make the original tariffs politically unpopular at home. That's why retaliatory tariffs are targeted at politically sensitive industries, especially in key states. The point is to provoke an adverse reaction when Americans figure out that not only are they paying more $$ for goods, but they are losing their jobs for inability to export.
 
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