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Ramrouser said:
Kilmeade's comment was bizarre - so out there that it's almost like he was trying to make a really bad joke (which he often does). Plus, it was an offhand remark unlike JK's comments which were a part of his monologue.
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Doesn't matter, there is no comparison.

Kilmeade called for murder, Kimmel did not. Full Stop. End of discussion. There is no possible comparison where Kimmel is worse in any form.
 
UNCatTech said:
Doesn't matter, there is no comparison.

Kilmeade called for murder, Kimmel did not. Full Stop. End of discussion. There is no possible comparison where Kimmel is worse in any form.
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Not a free speech issue.

Fox (Kilmeade's employer) made the business decision to retain him. Kimmel's employer reached a different commercial decision.
 
Ramrouser said:
Roseanne Barr was fired from her own show for one tweet. Kimmel is not some sad victim. He was no longer a viable option for his employers.
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None of that has anything to do with your rationalization of Kilmeade's vs Kimmel's comments, which is what I was speaking to.
 
heelinhell said:
C'mon ram

If you watched the discussion, one guy said a solution was to take the homeless and mentally ill off the street and put them in jail to which Kilmeade responded with a very serious look on his face " or give them lethal injections".

Now maybe his deadpan response was to mock the idea of throwing them in jail which would be an ironic comedic response, but I have never thought of Kilmeade as a comedian. However, giving him the benefit of the doubt, he should have at least mentioned in his "sorry sorry sorry " apology that it was a joke meant to mock the other guy's cruel suggestion that mentally ill and homeless people should be put in jail.

You know better and your attempt to defend this is sad and disappointing.
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He's a wise guy/smart ass who often thinks he's funny.
 
Ramrouser said:
Roseanne Barr was fired from her own show for one tweet. Kimmel is not some sad victim. He was no longer a viable option for his employers.
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Oh yes, I remember well when Obama’s FCC said to ABC, “we can do this the hard way or the easy way” in reference to removing Roseanne.

Yup, it’s the exact same thing.

You are apparently confusing cancel culture with government pressure. They are not the same thing at all.

Remember when conservatives had a freak out about liberal politicians simply writing letters to social media companies about disinformation. And those letters didn’t come anywhere close to what Carr said. Nor did they have the force of executive action. They were largely from Congressmen.
 
Calheel said:
Oh yes, I remember well when Obama’s FCC said to ABC, “we can do this the hard way or the easy way” in reference to removing Roseanne.

Yup, it’s the exact same thing.

You are apparently confusing cancel culture with government pressure. They are not the same thing at all.

Remember when conservatives had a freak out about liberal politicians simply writing letters to social media companies about disinformation. And those letters didn’t come anywhere close to what Carr said. Nor did they have the force of executive action. They were largely from Congressmen.
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You mean government pressure the way the Biden Administration directed Twitter and Facebook (among other social media companies) to cancel conservatives and suppress information? Zuckerberg has testified about the immense pressure the Federal government placed on him to comply.

I've said repeatedly that I do not support the FCC's recent actions but I still believe it was more of a business decision vs real fear of losing its license.
 
Ramrouser said:
Not a free speech issue.

Fox (Kilmeade's employer) made the business decision to retain him. Kimmel's employer reached a different commercial decision.
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The reason it's a free speech issue is because the government very obviously coerced Kimmel's employer to fire him. the Supreme Court precedent on that issue is clear and recent (and of course you know that because I cited it, and you ignored it because you know you have no response to it).
 
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Ramrouser said:
You mean government pressure the way the Biden Administration directed Twitter and Facebook (among other social media companies) to cancel conservatives and suppress information? Zuckerberg has testified about the immense pressure the Federal government placed on him to comply.

I've said repeatedly that I do not support the FCC's recent actions but I still believe it was more of a business decision vs real fear of losing its license.
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Open your eyes dude.

You have two major regional affiliates making content decisions to curry favor with the regime, both of whom will need Trump’s approval to expand business operations. And then on top of that government corruption, you have the FCC explicitly threatening ABC (even if you don’t take that threat seriously, ABC didn’t have the luxury of brushing it off).

And you still haven’t answered my question of what Kimmel said that was offensive with citation to the actual words he used.
 
Ramrouser said:
You mean government pressure the way the Biden Administration directed Twitter and Facebook (among other social media companies) to cancel conservatives and suppress information? Zuckerberg has testified about the immense pressure the Federal government placed on him to comply.

I've said repeatedly that I do not support the FCC's recent actions but I still believe it was more of a business decision vs real fear of losing its license.
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Wasn’t the WH pressure related to negative posts about Trump’s vaccine?
 
lawtig02 said:
Comedian = serious.

"News" host = joking.

This is what I was talking about in a different post. At some point, it has to become exhausting stretching all semblance of logic and morality to defend one's team. That's what drove me away from the GOP a decade ago.
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You'd think at some point they'd be smart enough to stop digging, but Trumpers don't know when to stop. To deny that there is a total double standard now in place for Trumpers like Kilmeade and Gutfeld and liberals like Colbert and Kimmel is to deny reality, but that's what MAGAs have been doing since at least 2015 when Dear Leader came down the escalator and called Mexicans rapists and criminals.
 
Ramrouser said:
Kilmeade's comment was bizarre - so out there that it's almost like he was trying to make a really bad joke (which he often does). Plus, it was an offhand remark unlike JK's comments which were a part of his monologue.
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Also, I need to you explain the humor to me - what's funny about euthanizing homeless people? What's the punchline to what he said?
 
Calheel said:
Oh yes, I remember well when Obama’s FCC said to ABC, “we can do this the hard way or the easy way” in reference to removing Roseanne.

Yup, it’s the exact same thing.

You are apparently confusing cancel culture with government pressure. They are not the same thing at all.

Remember when conservatives had a freak out about liberal politicians simply writing letters to social media companies about disinformation. And those letters didn’t come anywhere close to what Carr said. Nor did they have the force of executive action. They were largely from Congressmen.
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how do you know that didnt happen under obuma? just bc trump puts everything out there doesnt mean obuma did
 
uncjhodges said:
Ram must have the worlds smallest dick (well 2nd to Trump). Always so aggreived. Remembers slights to conservatives from like 2009
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Ok I'll give you another grievance since you all think Dems are perfect.

Grassley just released documents detailing the FBI/DOJ's "Arctic Frost" investigation where the agencies targeted for investigation 92 Republican allied organizations including Kirk's Turning Points USA. Total weaponization of the DOJ/FBI.
 
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