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I did a Google search for: Right-wing/Left-wing Violence in the US 2000-2025. Results are given below. If any incidents are missing, please let me know.

TL;DR scorecard:
-- Deaths attributed to Left-wing violence: 2 (or 3 if you count Kirk)
(left-wing violence is primarily against property)
-- Deaths attributed to Right-wing violence: 65

## right-wing violence
=======================
Numerous documented instances of right-wing violence and terrorism occurred in the U.S. between 2000 and 2025. Data from the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and other research centers show a significant increase in such incidents, particularly since the mid-2000s.

Major attacks include:

• 2009 Fort Hood shooting:
U.S. Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13 people and injured more than 30 at Fort Hood, Texas. While the motive is complex and rooted in Islamist extremism, Hasan reportedly had contact with far-right individuals prior to the attack, and some sources initially focused on potential links to radical right-wing ideology.

• 2012 Sikh temple shooting:
White supremacist Wade Michael Page killed six people at a Sikh gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, before dying by suicide. Page was a member of the white power music scene and had ties to neo-Nazi groups.

• 2015 Charleston church shooting:
White supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine Black parishioners during a Bible study at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

• 2017 Charlottesville car attack:
During the "Unite the Right" white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, James Alex Fields Jr. drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one and injuring dozens. He was later convicted of first-degree murder.

• 2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting:
Robert Gregory Bowers, who was motivated by antisemitic beliefs, killed 11 worshippers at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

• 2019 El Paso Walmart shooting:
A gunman with anti-immigrant and white supremacist motives killed 23 people at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

• 2021 U.S. Capitol attack:
Supporters of President Donald Trump, including members of far-right extremist groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, stormed the U.S. Capitol in an effort to overturn the 2020 election results. The attack resulted in multiple deaths and injuries and caused significant property damage.

• 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting:
An 18-year-old white supremacist targeted and killed 10 Black people at a Tops supermarket in Buffalo, New York. In his manifesto, the shooter expressed support for the "great replacement theory," a white nationalist conspiracy theory.

• 2023 Jacksonville Dollar General shooting:
A white gunman, motivated by racial hatred, killed three Black people at a Dollar General store in Jacksonville, Florida, before dying by suicide.

• Arson at the Pennsylvania Governor's Residence:
On Sunday, April 13, 2025, part of the Pennsylvania Governor's Residence was set on fire in an alleged political assassination attempt while Governor Josh Shapiro and his family slept inside. The suspect, 38-year-old Cody Allen Balmer (born March 23, 1987), a former mechanic from nearby Penbrook, Pennsylvania, was later arrested and charged with terrorism, attempted murder, aggravated arson, and aggravated assault after he turned himself in to the police. Balmer struggled with mental illness throughout his life and was hospitalized twice. In a warrant to search Balmer's possessions issued after the incident, state police stated in their search warrant that Balmer had targeted Shapiro based on "perceived injustices toward the people of Palestine". In a 911 call previously made by Balmer, he characterized Shapiro as a "monster" who should stop having his friends killed, put his people "through too much" and said that he would not take part in Shapiro's "plans" for Palestinians.

• Assassination of Melissa and Mark Hortman; Shooting of Yvette and John Hoffman:
On June 14, 2025, Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting at her home in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, United States. Hortman, the leader of the state House Democratic caucus, was killed alongside her husband, Mark. Earlier that morning, state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, were shot in their home in nearby Champlin and hospitalized. The authorities identified 57-year-old Vance Luther Boelter as a suspect and captured him on the evening of June 15 in Green Isle, Minnesota. Boelter preached more than once in a church in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, speaking against abortion rights and transgender people. Matthew Taylor, a senior Christian scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian and Jewish Studies, said, "Boelter's views now appear to align with the political 'far right' of Christianity in the United States."


• Other significant incidents and trends
Beyond these high-profile attacks, analysis by organizations like the ADL and the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) indicates a broader pattern of right-wing extremist violence, including:

-- Increased targeting of government institutions: Attacks and plots against government targets have risen, particularly since 2016.

-- Growing threat from white supremacists: The ADL reported that white supremacists were responsible for nearly half of all right-wing terror incidents between 2017 and 2022.

-- Threats against specific groups: Racially motivated attacks against minority groups and antisemitic violence remain a significant driver of far-right extremism.

-- Rise of online radicalization: Many perpetrators have been radicalized online, often promoting conspiracy theories like the "great replacement theory".

-- Recent attacks in 2025: Reports from September 2025 mention multiple instances of political violence, including arson at a governor's residence, attacks on government buildings, and other acts attributed to various forms of right-wing extremism.


## left-wing violence
======================
In the period from 2000 to 2025, left-wing violence in the US primarily involved property damage by environmental and animal rights extremists, along with politically charged assaults and sporadic, decentralized clashes.

Analysis from research centers indicates that incidents of lethal violence from left-wing extremism were extremely rare, unlike the higher number of fatalities linked to right-wing extremism.

Environmental and animal rights extremism (early 2000s)

• Property damage: The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) were active in the early 2000s, targeting businesses and facilities perceived as harming animals or the environment.

• Criminal acts: Between 1996 and 2002, the FBI linked ALF and ELF to over 600 criminal acts, causing tens of millions of dollars in damages.

Limited lethal violence: These attacks were almost exclusively focused on property destruction, with authorities considering them the primary domestic terrorism threat in the early 2000s.

Clashes during protests (2016 to 2020)

• Seattle May Day 2016: Anarchist groups and other demonstrators clashed with police, resulting in multiple injuries and arrests.

• Charlottesville 2017: Far-left counter-protesters clashed with far-right demonstrators at the "Unite the Right" rally.

• George Floyd protests 2020: While the majority of the summer 2020 protests were peaceful, some demonstrations devolved into violence. Incidents included:
-- Clashes with police.
-- The burning and looting of businesses, including the burning of the Minneapolis Third Police Precinct.
-- Property damage and vandalism in multiple cities.
-- Reports of gunfire in several locations.

Ideologically motivated plots and assaults

• Assault on Richard Spencer (2017): During President Donald Trump's inauguration in Washington, D.C., a masked protester punched white supremacist Richard Spencer.

• Killing of Aaron Danielson (2020): Michael Reinoehl, a self-identified anti-fascist, shot and killed Aaron "Jay" Danielson, a supporter of a right-wing group, during a protest in Portland, Oregon.

• Attacks by Jane's Revenge (2022): In response to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the autonomous network Jane's Revenge claimed responsibility for vandalism and attacks on crisis pregnancy centers and anti-abortion clinics.

• Targeting of a Las Vegas journalist (2022): A local Democratic official, Robert Telles, was accused of stabbing and killing a journalist who had written critical stories about him. Reuters identified this as the only fatal incident in their reporting since the January 6 Capitol riot that was perpetrated by a suspect clearly aligned with the political left.

• Atlanta Public Safety Training Center protests (2023): Left-wing activists protesting the development of a police training facility attacked law enforcement with rocks, bricks, and Molotov cocktails. Several were arrested on domestic terrorism charges.

Responding to far-right violence

-- "John Brown Gun Club": Some armed left-wing groups, such as the John Brown Gun Club, have formed to confront the far right directly.

-- Debate on tactics: A debate exists within leftist circles regarding the effectiveness of political violence, with some arguing it is a necessary response to fascism, while others worry that it undermines civil liberties.
Right wing violence was responsible for more murders than left wing violence on the very day that Charlie Kirk was killed.
 
I did a Google search for: Right-wing/Left-wing Violence in the US 2000-2025. Results are given below. If any incidents are missing, please let me know.

TL;DR scorecard:
-- Deaths attributed to Left-wing violence: 2 (or 3 if you count Kirk)
(left-wing violence is primarily against property)
-- Deaths attributed to Right-wing violence: 65

## right-wing violence
=======================
Numerous documented instances of right-wing violence and terrorism occurred in the U.S. between 2000 and 2025. Data from the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and other research centers show a significant increase in such incidents, particularly since the mid-2000s.

Major attacks include:

• 2009 Fort Hood shooting:
U.S. Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13 people and injured more than 30 at Fort Hood, Texas. While the motive is complex and rooted in Islamist extremism, Hasan reportedly had contact with far-right individuals prior to the attack, and some sources initially focused on potential links to radical right-wing ideology.

• 2012 Sikh temple shooting:
White supremacist Wade Michael Page killed six people at a Sikh gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, before dying by suicide. Page was a member of the white power music scene and had ties to neo-Nazi groups.

• 2015 Charleston church shooting:
White supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine Black parishioners during a Bible study at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

• 2017 Charlottesville car attack:
During the "Unite the Right" white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, James Alex Fields Jr. drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one and injuring dozens. He was later convicted of first-degree murder.

• 2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting:
Robert Gregory Bowers, who was motivated by antisemitic beliefs, killed 11 worshippers at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

• 2019 El Paso Walmart shooting:
A gunman with anti-immigrant and white supremacist motives killed 23 people at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

• 2021 U.S. Capitol attack:
Supporters of President Donald Trump, including members of far-right extremist groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, stormed the U.S. Capitol in an effort to overturn the 2020 election results. The attack resulted in multiple deaths and injuries and caused significant property damage.

• 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting:
An 18-year-old white supremacist targeted and killed 10 Black people at a Tops supermarket in Buffalo, New York. In his manifesto, the shooter expressed support for the "great replacement theory," a white nationalist conspiracy theory.

• 2023 Jacksonville Dollar General shooting:
A white gunman, motivated by racial hatred, killed three Black people at a Dollar General store in Jacksonville, Florida, before dying by suicide.

• Arson at the Pennsylvania Governor's Residence:
On Sunday, April 13, 2025, part of the Pennsylvania Governor's Residence was set on fire in an alleged political assassination attempt while Governor Josh Shapiro and his family slept inside. The suspect, 38-year-old Cody Allen Balmer (born March 23, 1987), a former mechanic from nearby Penbrook, Pennsylvania, was later arrested and charged with terrorism, attempted murder, aggravated arson, and aggravated assault after he turned himself in to the police. Balmer struggled with mental illness throughout his life and was hospitalized twice. In a warrant to search Balmer's possessions issued after the incident, state police stated in their search warrant that Balmer had targeted Shapiro based on "perceived injustices toward the people of Palestine". In a 911 call previously made by Balmer, he characterized Shapiro as a "monster" who should stop having his friends killed, put his people "through too much" and said that he would not take part in Shapiro's "plans" for Palestinians.

• Assassination of Melissa and Mark Hortman; Shooting of Yvette and John Hoffman:
On June 14, 2025, Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting at her home in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, United States. Hortman, the leader of the state House Democratic caucus, was killed alongside her husband, Mark. Earlier that morning, state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, were shot in their home in nearby Champlin and hospitalized. The authorities identified 57-year-old Vance Luther Boelter as a suspect and captured him on the evening of June 15 in Green Isle, Minnesota. Boelter preached more than once in a church in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, speaking against abortion rights and transgender people. Matthew Taylor, a senior Christian scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian and Jewish Studies, said, "Boelter's views now appear to align with the political 'far right' of Christianity in the United States."


• Other significant incidents and trends
Beyond these high-profile attacks, analysis by organizations like the ADL and the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) indicates a broader pattern of right-wing extremist violence, including:

-- Increased targeting of government institutions: Attacks and plots against government targets have risen, particularly since 2016.

-- Growing threat from white supremacists: The ADL reported that white supremacists were responsible for nearly half of all right-wing terror incidents between 2017 and 2022.

-- Threats against specific groups: Racially motivated attacks against minority groups and antisemitic violence remain a significant driver of far-right extremism.

-- Rise of online radicalization: Many perpetrators have been radicalized online, often promoting conspiracy theories like the "great replacement theory".

-- Recent attacks in 2025: Reports from September 2025 mention multiple instances of political violence, including arson at a governor's residence, attacks on government buildings, and other acts attributed to various forms of right-wing extremism.


## left-wing violence
======================
In the period from 2000 to 2025, left-wing violence in the US primarily involved property damage by environmental and animal rights extremists, along with politically charged assaults and sporadic, decentralized clashes.

Analysis from research centers indicates that incidents of lethal violence from left-wing extremism were extremely rare, unlike the higher number of fatalities linked to right-wing extremism.

Environmental and animal rights extremism (early 2000s)

• Property damage: The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) were active in the early 2000s, targeting businesses and facilities perceived as harming animals or the environment.

• Criminal acts: Between 1996 and 2002, the FBI linked ALF and ELF to over 600 criminal acts, causing tens of millions of dollars in damages.

Limited lethal violence: These attacks were almost exclusively focused on property destruction, with authorities considering them the primary domestic terrorism threat in the early 2000s.

Clashes during protests (2016 to 2020)

• Seattle May Day 2016: Anarchist groups and other demonstrators clashed with police, resulting in multiple injuries and arrests.

• Charlottesville 2017: Far-left counter-protesters clashed with far-right demonstrators at the "Unite the Right" rally.

• George Floyd protests 2020: While the majority of the summer 2020 protests were peaceful, some demonstrations devolved into violence. Incidents included:
-- Clashes with police.
-- The burning and looting of businesses, including the burning of the Minneapolis Third Police Precinct.
-- Property damage and vandalism in multiple cities.
-- Reports of gunfire in several locations.

Ideologically motivated plots and assaults

• Assault on Richard Spencer (2017): During President Donald Trump's inauguration in Washington, D.C., a masked protester punched white supremacist Richard Spencer.

• Killing of Aaron Danielson (2020): Michael Reinoehl, a self-identified anti-fascist, shot and killed Aaron "Jay" Danielson, a supporter of a right-wing group, during a protest in Portland, Oregon.

• Attacks by Jane's Revenge (2022): In response to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the autonomous network Jane's Revenge claimed responsibility for vandalism and attacks on crisis pregnancy centers and anti-abortion clinics.

• Targeting of a Las Vegas journalist (2022): A local Democratic official, Robert Telles, was accused of stabbing and killing a journalist who had written critical stories about him. Reuters identified this as the only fatal incident in their reporting since the January 6 Capitol riot that was perpetrated by a suspect clearly aligned with the political left.

• Atlanta Public Safety Training Center protests (2023): Left-wing activists protesting the development of a police training facility attacked law enforcement with rocks, bricks, and Molotov cocktails. Several were arrested on domestic terrorism charges.

Responding to far-right violence

-- "John Brown Gun Club": Some armed left-wing groups, such as the John Brown Gun Club, have formed to confront the far right directly.

-- Debate on tactics: A debate exists within leftist circles regarding the effectiveness of political violence, with some arguing it is a necessary response to fascism, while others worry that it undermines civil liberties.
So, both sides?
 
So it looks like you don't think Kilmeade should be fired for advocating murdering homeless and mentally ill people. Apparently, you think a disingenuous valley girl "sorry sorry sorry" should suffice.

How sad and disappointing...
I don't think Kilmeade should be fired for that. I think he and Fox should be shamed in the court of public opinion and his statement should be further evidence that anyone with even a semblance of a moral core should never get within 10 channels of Fox News, but I'm kind of glad they're now saying the quiet part out loud. Makes it harder for Pubs to deny what MAGA is really all about.
 
I don't think Kilmeade should be fired for that. I think he and Fox should be shamed in the court of public opinion and his statement should be further evidence that anyone with even a semblance of a moral core should never get within 10 channels of Fox News, but I'm kind of glad they're now saying the quiet part out loud. Makes it harder for Pubs to deny what MAGA is really all about.
I'm not advocating for him to be fired either, I'm saying what he said is far worse than what Kimmel said, yet we haven't heard anything from the trumpies. He made his weak apology and moved on.
 
This can probably be the last word on Kimmel. Brian,


The sheer hypocrisy of Kilmeade commenting in any way on Kimmel getting yanked off the air for "offensive speech" is disgusting. Kilmeade called for killing (euthanizing) mentally ill homeless people (but hey, he apologized, so we're all good!), while what Kimmel said was far less offensive and incendiary, but not only is Kilmeade still employed at Fox, but he's actually got the gall to be commenting on what happened to Kimmel and defending ABC for yanking him. Anyone who doubts that there is now a massive double standard in how liberals and conservatives are being treated in the media is either fooling themselves or just being deliberately dishonest, imo. Conservatives can say anything they want on the air with no consequences, but if you're a liberal and make a joke that MAGA snowflakes and especially Dear Leader and his minions find offensive, then your job and career are on the line, and increasingly it will be on the line due to government pressure and intimidation of their employers to pull them off the air. It's that simple - and the FCC Chair has implied as much.
 
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If hell is real, this Cardinal has a one way ticket.


Proof that even the religious can be bought off.

I'd like to know this guy's definition of respect, if he felt that Kirk did things with respect.

Admittedly I only know what I've read about Kirk since the murder, but I've not read anything that appears close to respecting people. There's a list of disrespectful quotes from this man.
 
If hell is real, this Cardinal has a one way ticket.



The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) strongly condemn Pope Benedict’s appointment of Archbishop Timothy Dolan to Cardinal of the Archdiocese of New York. Dolan’s mishandling of child sexual abuse cases is well-documented, from failing to report direct admissions by offending priests to actively lobbying against reforming statutes of limitations on child sexual abuse cases in Wisconsin. The archbishop’s track record is consistent with the Catholic Church’s record of covering up child sex abuse allegations.

On September 13, 2011, CCR and SNAP filed a complaint before the International Criminal Court charging that Vatican officials are responsible for policies and practices of cover-up that have enabled widespread and systemic rape and sexual violence against children and vulnerable adults. Together with the complaint, they submitted more than 20,000 pages of supporting materials consisting of findings and reports of commissions of inquiry and grand juries, testimonies, and other documentary evidence of sex crimes by Catholic clergy and of the policies and practices involved in the cover-ups.

Among the documents submitted in support of the complaint are letters between Dolan and then-Cardinal Ratzinger concerning Father Franklyn Becker. Becker was diagnosed as a pedophile as early as 1983 when serving in Milwaukee and, though the archdiocese of Milwaukee knew he continued to re-offend, Becker was nonetheless allowed to continue to work in several parishes. It was only when Becker was arrested in California in 2003 for the sexual assault of a child that Dolan wrote to Ratzinger requesting that Becker be defrocked. Ratzinger’s office replied that Dolan should inquire whether Becker would voluntarily request his own defrocking rather than be laicized involuntarily by the Vatican.

As recently evidenced by the case of prominent Harlem pastor Msgr. Wallace A. Harris, Dolan’s handling of child sex abuse cases has not changed since his Milwaukee and St. Louis days. In 2010, Harris, who had been accused of sexually assaulting more than 10 boys, was allowed to step down under a false pretense. Dolan, who by this time was already Archbishop of New York, quietly let him do so without informing the authorities or warning parishioners. More than a year and a half after the fact, the Vatican admonished him to live “a life of prayer and penance.” Due to the statute of limitations in New York, Harris has avoided criminal charges.

Dolan’s role in these and other notorious cases underscores the need for a criminal investigation of Church officials for their responsibility in the widespread and systematic concealment of child rape throughout the world. In addition, the Pope’s decision to elevate Dolan within the church hierarchy despite his abysmal record shows clearly that the Vatican cannot be trusted to hold its own officials accountable for their role in concealing sex crimes.
 
This can probably be the last word on Kimmel. Brian,


What is wrong with that man's eyebrows?

Someone should let him know that he can get those weird little things fixed. Maybe if they were normal, it would help his eyes not look too close together and beady.
 
I didn't realize Rob Schneider was a Trumpanzee.


It is interesting at how some aging, has-been, white, mostly male comedians and actors turn hard right in their later years. Given the relative dearth of entertainment celebrities on the right, I guess you can try to stay relevant and in the news by becoming a MAGA, as Fox and Newsmax and other right-wing networks will be thrilled to have you appear as a Real red-blooded patriotic American (has-been) celebrity!
 
It is interesting at how some aging, has-been, white, mostly male comedians and actors turn hard right in their later years. Given the relative dearth of celebrities on the right, I guess you can try to stay relevant and in the news by becoming a MAGA, as Fox and Newsmax and other right-wing networks will be thrilled to have you appear as a Real red-blooded patriotic American (has-been) celebrity!

Early onset Republican.

Kevin Sorbo
Kid Rock
Rob Schneider
Dr. Phil
Joe Rogan

It's a whos who!
 
If hell is real, this Cardinal has a one way ticket.


He's a dick

In a June 28, 2020, Wall Street Journal opinion piece, Dolan argued against removing statues of American historical figures because they had been slave owners or fought for the Confederacy in the American Civil War. Dolan said, "If we only honor perfect, saintly people of the past, I guess I'm left with only the cross. And some people would ban that."

...
In October 2017, Auxiliary Bishop John O'Hara, acting on Dolan's behalf, stopped St. Mary Parish in the Archdiocese of New York from hosting the International Human Rights Art Festival. This was because the festival had scheduled two performances that included gay and transgender content. After the archdiocese complained about it, the festival director moved the event to an Episcopal church in Brooklyn.

...

In 2011, Dolan thanked Bill Donohue, leader of the conservative group Catholic League, for a press release that was reproduced on the Archdiocese of New York website. In the statement, Donohue denounced Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) as a "phony victims' group". SNAP had previously criticized Dolan.<a href="Timothy Dolan - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>82<span>]</span></a> In May 2012, The New York Times revealed that the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, then headed by Dolan, had paid some abusive priests up to $20,000 to resign the priesthood immediately rather than wait for the Vatican to laicize them. The archdiocese noted that these priests, all suspended from public ministry, were still receiving full salaries and would continue to do so until their laicization. Furthermore, these payments were motivating them not to contest being defrocked; Dolan had previously termed accusations of giving "payoffs" to accused priests as "false, preposterous and unjust".

...

In July 2013, documents made public during bankruptcy proceedings for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee. They showed that Dolan, then archbishop of Milwaukee, in 2007 had sought permission from the Vatican to shield $57 million in church funds from victims lawsuits. In the letter, Dolan wrote: "By transferring these assets to the trust, I foresee an improved protection of these funds from any legal claim and liability."
etc
 
Early onset Republican.

Kevin Sorbo
Kid Rock
Rob Schneider
Dr. Phil
Joe Rogan

It's a whos who!
Not entirely fair to include Rogan in that list. He's not the raving Trumper those other guys are. Though in his own way he probably had way more impact on getting Trump elected than any of those other clowns.
 
I didn't realize Rob Schneider was a Trumpanzee.


He's a shitty person. My first job in Hollywood was in the building on the Sony Lot next to the Happy Gilmore offices so I knew several people who worked in that bungalow. Rob was not liked. Sandler for the record is awesome - at least at the level of interacting with a stranger. I have no complaints in my brief interactions, including when after failing to break into his building he asked if he could use our phone to call security. he locked his keys in the office while going out to play basketball on the lot at like midnight.
 
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