MOUNTAINH33L
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Because gun control is necessary and has not yet been implemented. They’d rather live in a world that was safe enough that armed security isn’t necessary.And yet democrat politicians that demand gun control walk around with a armed detail all the time…
democrat politicians are attempting to protect themselves from something that they know is a problem and must be reformed.And yet democrat politicians that demand gun control walk around with a armed detail all the time…
Me as well, only somewhat knew of him. This type took off with the advent of the internet and social media. That's because, all they have to do is find a niche, to be successful. And to do that, they often specialize in spin, misinformation, and outright lies. I suppose everyone is selling something, so they found their niche in this space.I had heard of this guy only recently from podcast references. This morning I'm viewing reels of stuff he has said, his strongly professed beliefs, his slanted version of history, et al. Good fucking riddance to you Charlie.
What if it was an inside job by a MAGA/FBI/Trump-hired assassin to divert people's attention from Epstein, ICE, occupations of American cities, Israel, Russia, inflation, unemployment, an ever-shittier economy, a corrupt Supreme Court, etc., etc., etc.? Remember, Fred Trump raised his kids to be "killers".What on earth is the right wing going to do if it turns out that the shooter was motivated not by leftist ideology but rather by an even more extreme far right ideology than the one Kirk espoused? Obviously, either way, it’s horrific and abhorrent. I just mean that the entire right wing media ecosystem has already gone all in on declaring war on the entire liberal apparatus in this country, what is going to happen if it turns out that the shooter doesn’t have the ideological motivations that they’ve already decided he has without him even having been caught yet?
hahahaha buddy, no. No. No. You made a statement of opinion. Your opinion. Not a statement of fact. It is most certainly not a fact that the death of a conservative podcast is going to reverberate in the same manner as a horrific terrorist attack on the United States. You may think that it will, you may even hope that it will. It is still just your opinion – an an absolutely insane one at that, but certainly your right and prerogative to hold it!I simply made a statement of fact. I'm not saying 9/10 compares to 9/11 but I am saying it's very impactful to conservative Gen Zers. Many on this board are now just discovering the power and influence of Kirk for the under 30 crowd. Gen Z have no personal reference or connection to 9/11 (unless their family was directly impacted) so it might as well be Pearl Harbor or Lincoln's assassination.
JB Pritzker is 100% spot on.Never miss an opportunity to blame Trump for something...
JB Pritzker condemns political violence after Charlie Kirk's death, says Trump's rhetoric 'often foments it'
Illinois Gov JB Pritzker argued Trump 'often foments' political violence through his rhetoric and Jan 6 pardons
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JB Pritzker condemns political violence after Charlie Kirk's death, says Trump's rhetoric 'often foments it'
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker condemned the assassination of Charlie Kirk while criticizing President Donald Trump's rhetoric for "fomenting" political violence.www.foxnews.com
When Democrats went overboard turning the funeral of Senator Paul Wellstone into something of a political rally, then Governor Jesse Ventura walked out in disgust and it turned a lot of middle-of-the-road folks against the party going into that election.What did anyone expect? The fucking idiot is going to act like a fucking idiot no matter where he’s at.
I don’t know what the layout of this building is but I’ve done a lot of work at N.C. State and a little at UNC. Contractors have to check out keys and the roof key was a step above, we used to have to sign something about proper safety techniques I think (it’s been 10 -15 years since I checked them out). My point is roof access is usually restricted for safety etc.Considering anyone can walk into virtually any building on any public university or college campus during regular business hours, no, it’s highly unlikely he had or needed any help accessing the rooftop.
Great insight. Really interesting. Thank you for sharing it.I don’t know what the layout of this building is but I’ve done a lot of work at N.C. State and a little at UNC. Contractors have to check out keys and the roof key was a step above, we used to have to sign something about proper safety techniques I think (it’s been 10 -15 years since I checked them out). My point is roof access is usually restricted for safety etc.
Gunman could have picked a lot, forced access somehow or had inside access to keys but the roof is usually restricted in some way.
Well, Kirk blamed the political rhetoric of Trump's opponents for Melissa Hortman getting shot, so I guess things have just come full circle.Never miss an opportunity to blame Trump for something...
JB Pritzker condemns political violence after Charlie Kirk's death, says Trump's rhetoric 'often foments it'
Illinois Gov JB Pritzker argued Trump 'often foments' political violence through his rhetoric and Jan 6 pardons
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JB Pritzker condemns political violence after Charlie Kirk's death, says Trump's rhetoric 'often foments it'
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker condemned the assassination of Charlie Kirk while criticizing President Donald Trump's rhetoric for "fomenting" political violence.www.foxnews.com
Maybe he was a "cute" guy. Women have become more baffling to me after their collective reaction to Dobbs in the 2024 election.Yeah the women, especially young women, coming out of the woodwork is surprising to me. Kirk was very much anti women’s rights and spoke openly about it all the time. Recently he said if his daughter was raped that she would still have to have the baby and also said that Taylor swift should submit to her new husband.
Kirk stands for white men and white men only so to see so many young women coming out as supporters is bizarre to me
We still don't know the motive, the killer's background, or much of anything else. All we know is that it was an unjustified homicide.I'm not saying we should condone it. Arrest the person who shot him and throw the book at him. But we don't have to act as if it's a terrible thing that a terrible man was killed by his own terrible ideology.
I grow weary of the hand-wringing on the left. Everyone who claims to be nauseated about Kirk's death -- are you serious? He's a dead terrorist. He was one of the people most responsible for GOP's embrace of hate politics. For him to be killed by hate politics -- if that's what happened -- just means he lived to see the fruit of his labors. It's true that political violence is terrible. But Kirk was an advocate for political violence. He was a net negative for society. He was a man of limited ability who managed to climb to preposterous heights simply by peddling hate, fear, and violence with little sophistication, giving it to his fans raw and unadulterated.
Stop saying, I hate it that he was killed. He was killed by his own hand. I don't care.
Sure. Just know that "we need to take down the temperature" is not going to get any results, just like it hasn't gotten any results the last million times it's been tried.You have every right to your own feelings on the subject but so do those of us who genuinely hate that he was killed.
If he's saying he wants Conway and Wallace assassinated like kirk, then yes, he should be gone. If he's saying that he wants Conway and Wallace fired like Dowd, let him stay. I disagree with him 99.5% of the time, but I think he provides an important voice here.Ban this pos
Also, if you read the full comments, Pritzker said it isn’t just Trump’s rhetoric that foments violence. But Trump is president and he 100% fomented Jan 6 so of course he gets called out by name, as he should.Well, Kirk blamed the political rhetoric of Trump's opponents for Melissa Hortman getting shot, so I guess things have just come full circle.
But that just isn't true. The right has nothing except turning up the volume. What would it even look like for the right to "tone down the rhetoric"? That would put 95% of the most popular right-wing media figures out of business. And they have to keep up the constant victimization narratives because otherwise people will start looking at the results of what the right-wing has been doing.Both sides could benefit from toning down the rhetoric.
Let’s not give “Never Trumpers” too much credit.FTFY