The Charlie Kirk Thread

sringwal said:
Yeah. This is what I have been getting at, although Burns explains it much more clearly than I could hope to, and it really scares me.
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Reminds me of Tommy Lee Jones in No Country for Old Men (and I'd argue that we are all old men here):

"I was sheriff of this county when I was twenty-five years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman; father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time; him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carried one; that's the younger Jim. Gaston Boykins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the oldtimers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the oldtimers. Can't help but wonder how they would have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville Hill here a while back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a fourteen-year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been planning to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell. "Be there in about fifteen minutes". I don't know what to make of that. I sure don't. The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand."
 


Sounds like this employee was not acting in accordance with company policy, so not questioning firing, just noting it because it’s getting a lot of right wing attention.
 
CFordUNC said:
This, precisely.

This is why it’s fun rubbing your nose in it, @Ramrouser. Because you do it over and over and over, never learning a lesson. Your first few posts on this thread were to jump to the conclusion that the shooter must have been a transgender left winger, and that “the left” would finally get the civil war that it’s been clamoring for. You make yourself an easy target. It turns out- just as most of us said it probably would - that the shooter was a right wing gun nut, and that all of the calls for “CIVIL WAR” were coming from the right wing, not the left.
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Never mentioned trans.
 
Willy said:
Reminds me of Tommy Lee Jones in No Country for Old Men (and I'd argue that we are all old men here):

"I was sheriff of this county when I was twenty-five years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman; father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time; him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carried one; that's the younger Jim. Gaston Boykins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the oldtimers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the oldtimers. Can't help but wonder how they would have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville Hill here a while back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a fourteen-year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been planning to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell. "Be there in about fifteen minutes". I don't know what to make of that. I sure don't. The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand."
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When I was fairly young my Deddy's best friend was the sheriff. He never wore a gun or a uniform. But he did drive a bulldozer.
 
nycfan said:
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Oh, this feels like some whitewashing. It might be true, but I’d like more than a third hand account of a conversation as supporting evidence.
If it is true, what the hell kind of left-leaning sites on the internet can induce that kind of a 180? It seems like right leaning stuff is everywhere, but leftist propaganda? That anyone would pay attention to?
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Oh, this feels like some whitewashing. It might be true, but I’d like more than a third hand account of a conversation as supporting evidence.
If it is true, what the hell kind of left-leaning sites on the internet can induce that kind of a 180? It seems like right leaning stuff is everywhere, but leftist propaganda? That anyone would pay attention to?
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It’s almost certainly untrue.
 
nycfan said:
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"Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said one of Tyler Robinson’s family members told investigators Tyler had become more political in recent years. The family member said at a recent dinner, Robinson and a second relative discussed Kirk’s coming outdoor event on the Utah Valley campus in Orem.

“They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” Cox, a Republican, said at a news briefing Friday.
It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Cox added in an interview with the Journal."

That needs a great deal more attribution and explanation. Why are they getting this kind of quotations from the governor rather than the investigators? Who is the "us" that Governor Cox references? Why can't those investigators speak for themselves? How is "leftist ideology" actually defined in Utah...by a GOP Governor?
 
Ramrouser said:
Never mentioned trans.
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You most certainly did. I don’t have the inclination to go back to find it, but you most certainly did.

Edited to add: Hey, look! It appears that another enterprising poster did the hard work for me! Care to revise your statement that you never mentioned transgender? Would it absolutely kill you to just not be so damn dishonest all the time?
 
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