The Charlie Kirk Thread

1moretimeagain said:
I felt like most on the Right realized the “University indoctrination” dog won’t hunt on this particular case, but Kari Lake is going to keep trying.
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Yes, because taking one semester at that liberal bastion Utah State and taking some courses at the radical Dixie Technical College no doubt brainwashed this poor young man from a good, god-fearing MAGA family to shoot our conservative saint Charlie Kirk. Their agenda is so clear here that it might as well be slapping people in the face.
 
BoonetheAiredale said:
I believe fear is the simple driving factor towards embracing a "strong man" approach to government. Fear of change, fear of not creating a better life, fear of other, all magnified by orders of magnitude by social media. The strong man's team recognizes this and responds accordingly. The fear is real, and reasonable. The amplification of this fear can be, if left unchecked, Country destroying.
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Strong man = the cowboy narrative. It's been used since Reagan to propt up the myth of doing it all on one's own. Cowboys were not what the myth portrayed, but who needs facts?
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Yes, because taking one semester at that liberal bastion Utah State and taking some courses at the radical Dixie Technical College no doubt brainwashed this poor young man from a good, god-fearing MAGA family to shoot our conservative saint Charlie Kirk. Their agenda is so clear here that it might as well be slapping people in the face.
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I’ve seen a couple people say he didn’t even complete the semester, but I don’t know. Either way, if someone walks away from a full scholarship after one semester, it’s safe to say they didn’t especially like the experience.
 
"In fact, a person on the left might argue, the data is clear — over the last decade, right-wing extremists have killed far more people than left-wing extremists."

But hey MAGA, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | There Are Monsters in Your Midst, Too

No matter the direction of the tragedy, the end result is the same — the right grows angrier at the left, and the left grows angrier at the right.
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And really Grunts vs Elites didn't happen till most of the way through Halo 2, when the Arbiter saw through the brainwashing of the prophets and joined forces with humanity to stop the firing of Delta Halo and the eradication of all life in the galaxy. After which the Covenant split into factions and the Jiralhanae overthrew the Sangheli - the so called elites Geraldo is harping on about - as the lead race under the prophets (the San'Shyuum). The Ungoy (the Grunts) were essentially a slave race and were bred for cannon fodder and workers. They really didn't rise up against the elites. I mean those still commanded by the Jiralhanae (and Sangheli still loyal to the prophets) obviously fought the so-called elites during the Great Schism (as well as the many splintered factions following the fall of the prophets), but it was more as continuation of the same order of their lives. You hatched from a clutch of eggs in a methane filled incubation chamber and lived a life of toil, generally following the orders of the people who run the ship you were born on. I mean there were Ungoy uprisings in the ancient past, but that is not covered in the Halo video games, nor is there a great uprising by them against the Sangheli. I mean they weren't even a conquered species, they were given a lifeline off a dying planet and in the process lost their freedom. It was a voluntary move on their part, though it didn't work out so well for them.

I really don't get what Geraldo is talking about. I think he skipped the cut scenes.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Nancy Mace would have given us video of the full production starting with her trip to Sherwin Williams to buy the paint and roller brush, but still a good effort from Ted.

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Even when he tries to look tough Ted comes across as a hopeless, nerdy weirdo. I doubt he'll ever escape the hilariously accurate "Bad Lip Reading" video from his failed 2016 presidential campaign.
 
ole howard1 said:
For me, it’s not that voters weren’t moved by Harris and other Dems calling Trump authoritarian. It’s that Republican voters — and many swing voters — didn’t care that so many CONSERVATIVES said Trump was a danger to our democracy.

Liz and Dick Cheney. I get that lots of folks, including Republicans disillusioned with the establishment, are not will about Dick Cheney. But good grief — hardcore conservative, tough politician. The same folks who voted for him and George W. Bush twice just didn’t care.

Conservative political scholar Michael Luttig said Trump was a threat.

John Kelly.

Adam Kinzinger.

Former Tea Party Congressman Joe Walsh.

Trump didn’t get an endorsement from George W. Bush.

That’s what should have convinced enough swing voters and reasonable Republicans to reject Trump. I mean, right?
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I think the biggest issue is that conservative media paints a false reality that affects so many people, including many who don't consume it.

Going into the election, conservative media had its followers believing that the economy and inflation were in dire shape even though the opposite was true. America far outpaced the rest of the world in our Covid recovery.

They also have the ability to get people frothing at the mouth over non-issues. Transexualism is a great example of that. The amount of trans athletes playing women's sports is barely a data point, but if you ask nearly any conservative media consumer, it is rampant. Hell, one of this forum's posters practically roots for each mass shooter to be trans.

Reagan repealing the fairness doctrine is a big factor why Trump is our president.
 
ZenMode said:
It is sad that we shouldn't expect any honest acknowledgement of the role of Dems in our current political violence situation, despite the fact that much of the fear-mongering is coming from Dems and much of the violence is perpitrated by Dems.
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Violence against people? The right kills five times as many people as the left when it comes to political violence. It’s sad that that isn’t being acknowledged. When it gets painted as a problem equal on both sides, then the main perpetrators don’t get held responsible.
As an example, just look at how the guy at MSNBC (iirc) got immediately canned for saying something merely insensitive, while the guys on Fox News literally call for war and violence and nothing happens to them.
 
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