The Charlie Kirk Thread



“… In a video of the incident, Booker can be seen jumping up and down, yelling profanity and taunting people attending the vigil about Kirk’s death. “Y’all homie dead,” she said at one point. Booker and an unidentified man began to argue, with the man asking why she was “being so hateful,” and Booker firing back with the same question to him. The man responds, “I want to be left alone.”

The incident occurred Friday near the Student Union Building, a “free speech area,” according to the Texas Tech Police Department.

Booker was arrested by Texas Tech Police and booked into the Lubbock County Detention Center on a charge of simple assault, a misdemeanor in Texas, according to the Lubbock County Sheriff’s Office. She was released the next day on a $200 bond.

Booker is no longer enrolled at Texas Tech University, said Allison Hirth, vice president of marketing and communications at the university. “Any behavior that denigrates victims of violence is reprehensible, has no place on our campus, and is not aligned with our values,” she said in a statement.…”



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If she were my kid, I would be appalled at her behavior, but hard to see how her outburst in the video justifies an assault charge or being kicked out of school.
 
dukeman92 said:
I guess I lost my sister to Charlie Kirk. She’s a Bible thumping pretend Christian who has been posting non stop about Charlie Kirk and I finally commented on one of her posts… one thing led to another and I was accused of spewing hate and division just for pointing out shit that Kirk said. Go figure.
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I feel you. I lost my brother too… but it was a long time ago when Trump first came on the scene politically in 2015. Actually, come to think of it, I started “losing” him back in 2010 or so. I started losing a ton of “friends” and some family back then.
 
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Extremist Groups Hated Charlie Kirk. They’re Using His Death to Radicalize Others

The Oath Keepers are apparently restarting, and extremist groups like the Proud Boys are calling for “state violence” in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s death.
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For years,extremist groups, white nationalists, and militias like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers saw Charlie Kirk not as their ally, but as their enemy.

Though Kirk denigrated trans people, Muslims, unmarried women, and many minorities and advocated for an America with Christianity at the center of every aspect of life, he was, in their view, a moderate. For some, his staunch support of Israel’s government made Kirk a target rather than a friend.



But in the immediate aftermath of Kirk being fatally shot while speaking at a Turning Point USA event Wednesday at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, these same groups were quick to frame the incident as an attack on one of their own, portraying Kirk’s death as part of what they see as an ongoing war against white, Christian men. The same groups were relatively quiet on Friday after police announced they had arrested a 22-year-old from Utah for the killing who had no obvious ties to the left.


These groups, many of which have been relatively dormant since the mass arrests surrounding the January 6 attack on the Capitol, have used the outpouring of grief around Kirk’s death as a lightning rod, a signal that they need to mobilize and take action. Many of them, including the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, have used Kirk’s death as a recruitment and radicalizing tool to convince his supporters to take a more extreme worldview.

“Nothing can stop what is coming,” Ryan Sánchez, the leader of the far-right National Network, who was caught on video giving a Nazi salute during last year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, wrote on his Telegram channel. “We are mobilizing young Nationalists to defend our communities against the Radical Left—we need your help!”


The appeals appear to be at least somewhat working: Sánchez’s post was accompanied by a screenshot showing a $1,000 donation he received on Christian crowdfunding platform GiveSendGo.


“This is the beginning of a movement that may define our nation,” the donor wrote on the site. “Use it for good and purge the country of these insane ideologies.”


Another donor, who called himself “White Nationalist,” commented: “Time to take our country back fellas. Get to work!”

Sánchez, an acolyte of far-right influencer Nick Fuentes, has already mobilized. A video from a vigil for Kirk that Sánchez promoted in Huntington Beach, California, on Wednesday shows a group of men chanting: “White man fight back.” He shared another image of himself speaking at the vigil on his Telegram channel, with the caption: “DEATH TO THE LEFT.”

The video of the chanting in Huntington Beach was shared in many other extremist groups, including the Anti-Communist Combat HQ channel on Telegram, which is a hub for amplifying antisemitic, racist, and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric from groups including Active Clubs and the National Justice Party.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
They literally have called democrats communists for 40 years.
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Hell, Trump has said repeatedly in just the last few days that Democrats are radical sick people who hate America. But of course since Republicans believe that's actually true they've got no problems with it, but call them a Nazi and they suffer epic meltdowns, as we're seeing here.
 

Workers Are Getting Fired Over Posts Mocking Charlie Kirk’s Death​

Campaigns to alert employers to contentious posts are posing new challenges for bosses; ‘This is very different’ from past political controversies at work​


🎁 —> https://www.wsj.com/business/charli...c?st=PmaVPR&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

“… The swift response from companies underscores their eagerness to distance themselves from political commentary that risks blowing back on their reputations with consumers—or the Trump administration.

… “This is very different,” said Vanessa Matsis-McCready, associate general counsel and vice president of HR services for Engage PEO, which handles workplace functions for small and medium businesses. “I really don’t feel like there was a time when you could have an individual make a statement on their personal social media and have their employer receive thousands of phone calls.”

… “You need to look at people who are saying horrible things. And they shouldn’t be working with you,” she said. She added that Justice Department officials would look into the Office Depot incident.

“Businesses cannot discriminate,” she said. “We can prosecute you for that.”

… Private-sector employees aren’t legally protected from repercussions for words or actions even if it happens outside the workplace, legal experts say….”
 
All I can say is that the zealots are in control and they are coming for anyone who questions them. It certainly starts with the folks publicly celebrating Kirk's death because they are easy targets who even people like me could punch in the face on a personal level (but i would never wield the power of public office to punish them). Make no mistake, however, that it does not stop there. It won't stop. There is no safety mechanism. The very same people who go along now with punishing people for Kirk will be fine 3 months from now with a night in jail for anyone who criticizes Trump on Facebook. And 3 months after that they'll be fine with a month in prison for doing so. After that....
 
It’s like Festivus every day for them. The “airing of grievances” is a nonstop condition and the embracing of victim hood from the “others” especially intellectual “others”.
 
nycfan said:

Workers Are Getting Fired Over Posts Mocking Charlie Kirk’s Death​

Campaigns to alert employers to contentious posts are posing new challenges for bosses; ‘This is very different’ from past political controversies at work​


🎁 —> https://www.wsj.com/business/charli...c?st=PmaVPR&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

“… The swift response from companies underscores their eagerness to distance themselves from political commentary that risks blowing back on their reputations with consumers—or the Trump administration.

… “This is very different,” said Vanessa Matsis-McCready, associate general counsel and vice president of HR services for Engage PEO, which handles workplace functions for small and medium businesses. “I really don’t feel like there was a time when you could have an individual make a statement on their personal social media and have their employer receive thousands of phone calls.”

… “You need to look at people who are saying horrible things. And they shouldn’t be working with you,” she said. She added that Justice Department officials would look into the Office Depot incident.

“Businesses cannot discriminate,” she said. “We can prosecute you for that.”

… Private-sector employees aren’t legally protected from repercussions for words or actions even if it happens outside the workplace, legal experts say….”
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extreme woke cancel culture from Trump supporters with a straight face…amazing
 


“… George Zinn was arrested moments after the fatal Sept. 10 shooting of the right-wing activist at Utah Valley University, when he told an officer at the scene: “I shot him, now shoot me.”

… Authorities say his lies wasted critical investigative resources before the actual suspect, Tyler Robinson, was taken into custody.

… Following the arrest of Zinn, the Salt Lake Tribunereported that he has been a familiar—and often disruptive—presence at Utah political and cultural events for decades, turning up everywhere from GOP gatherings to protests and film screenings.

Prosecutors say Zinn’s rap sheet goes back to the 1980s, often for trespass and disorderly conduct. Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill described him as a politically conservative, libertarian-leaning gadfly who was more oddball than menace.…”
 


How long will it take this outrage machine to sputter out? It is so valuable to powerful people who have a vested interest in feeding it, it could take some time.

How bottomless is the generalized rage of MAGA being funneled through the Kirk assassination? I’ve always thought that the explosion of mass protests around the murders of George Floyd was as much or more about the tinderbox of penthouse up COVID isolation. People desperately wanted a reason to be part of collective human contact and were furious about police brutality but also a myriad other complaints.

This MAGA response feels similar to me to that and it took some time for the tide to reverse against the excesses of politicians and activists who exploited the George Floyd upwelling.
 
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