The Charlie Kirk Thread

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Ramrouser said:
I see A LOT of libs celebrating Kirk's death on my social media feeds - not just purple haired barista's - educators, administrators, nurses, Drs., a Secret Service agent, police officers and business owners. It's pretty widespread unfortunately.

No question the social media algorithms are giving us what we want to see but I see a danger in getting people too fired up. The problem is that many people are giving them content to send out.
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Are these screenshots or actual posts? My best guess is that give the social media diet you consume, you are likely seeing screenshots posted by outrage-seeking conservatives. I highly doubt your algorithm is leading you to actual gleeful posts.
 
Ramrouser said:
I see A LOT of libs celebrating Kirk's death on my social media feeds - not just purple haired barista's - educators, administrators, nurses, Drs., a Secret Service agent, police officers and business owners. It's pretty widespread unfortunately.

No question the social media algorithms are giving us what we want to see but I see a danger in getting people too fired up. The problem is that many people are giving them content to send out.
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This may be the least aware post you've ever made. It's like the first paragraph and the second are from people living on different planets. You acknowledge in your post that social media algorithms are just feeding us and amplifying fringe voices - but you still can't stop looking at your own social media feed doing exactly that and realize that you're letting your self-curated algorithm convince you that celebration of Kirk's death is "widespread" when in reality it's, like, dozens or hundreds of people in a country of 330 million.

You want to stop being so angry all the time? Stop scrolling your damn feed letting yourself be convinced that the stuff being fed to you by grifting scumbags like Chaya Raichik are somehow representative of what all Democrats or all people on the left are saying or doing. You're being part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
We are not driving the news cycle. We are just following it. It is important to follow this because the consequences of this story could still impact all of us.
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Of course, the news cycle, cycles itself… like a self-propelled lawn mower. Like Trump wants Epstein to fade away from the news, I want Kirk to fade away. And if that means fewer poasts on the Kirk thread here, so be it. And I think any “consequences” of this story were going to manifest themselves sooner or later anyway. Perhaps this simply accelerated some things, but anything that trump or the right wingnuts do today (invade Memphis) or tomorrow (who knows) was going to happen anyway.
 
nycfan said:
Kirk was getting a lot of shit from Trump Loyalists (like Laura Loomer) before his murder because he was demanding Bondi quit obfuscating on Epstein and release the full files to clear the air and satisfy a key promise made to MAGA.

Under direct pressure froM Trump, he publicly said he would t talk about it anymore at one point but then clarified he was just giving them time to do the right thing. Kirk promoted the conspiracy theory (with a lot of left wing adherents) that Epstein worked for Mossad, which led to fever swamp suggestions that he had been killed by an Israeli assassin in the hours before his alleged killer was captured.

So for all his flaws, I don’t think there is an Epstein-Kirk connection (if nothing else, Kirk was too young to really have been involved unless he had been groomed to work at Epstein’s ranch at some point).
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Yes, no Kirk/Epstein… but I was being totally facetious with all of that nonsense. I thought the “Hunter laptop with all of Hillary’s emails found on the island” would give it away.

Honestly I had no idea who or what this Charlie Kirk was anyway until just the other day. Had somebody mentioned “Kirk” to me 2 weeks ago I would have thought they were taking about the Captain. Beam me up Scottie. Make it so #1. Same with “Charlie”. I have a brown dog named Charlie. Great dog BTW. If someone had mentioned “Charlie Kirk” 2 weeks ago I’d have had visions of a brown dog at the helm of the Starship Enterprise.
 
rodoheel said:
Well the President himself is doing it too, and has been basically since Kirk was killed Days ago Trump directly posted calling for the firing of a Clemson professor for a social media post (and the professor was then subsequently fired).
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I thought he reposted something from the university saying a professor had been suspended. Not a big difference, I guess.
 
Ramrouser said:
I see A LOT of libs celebrating Kirk's death on my social media feeds - not just purple haired barista's - educators, administrators, nurses, Drs., a Secret Service agent, police officers and business owners. It's pretty widespread unfortunately.

No question the social media algorithms are giving us what we want to see but I see a danger in getting people too fired up. The problem is that many people are giving them content to send out.
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What is your definition of “celebrating?”

And be honest.
 
Ramrouser said:
I see A LOT of libs celebrating Kirk's death on my social media feeds - not just purple haired barista's - educators, administrators, nurses, Drs., a Secret Service agent, police officers and business owners. It's pretty widespread unfortunately.

No question the social media algorithms are giving us what we want to see but I see a danger in getting people too fired up. The problem is that many people are giving them content to send out.
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That is a problem and people doing it are shit for brains scum. The same can also be said about attorneys who are scapegoating Trans people who don't have shit to do with this mess whether those attorneys be the attorney general or message board posters.
 
Why is it OK to celebrate the death of Iranian nuclear scientists and not Charlie Kirk?

Why is it OK to celebrate the death of whoever was in those Venezuelan boats but not Charlie Kirk?

Had Brett Kavanaugh's assassin gone through with it, I would have been happy and I am not embarrassed or ashamed about that at all. It would have been better if the person forced Kavanaugh to resign from the Supreme Court -- then we'd get the same result with less death -- but Kavanaugh is directly responsible for untold suffering and a great deal of death. Throughout history, the only check on people with absolute power has been the prospect of violence directed toward them.
 
Ramrouser said:
I see A LOT of libs celebrating Kirk's death on my social media feeds - not just purple haired barista's - educators, administrators, nurses, Drs., a Secret Service agent, police officers and business owners. It's pretty widespread unfortunately.

No question the social media algorithms are giving us what we want to see but I see a danger in getting people too fired up. The problem is that many people are giving them content to send out.
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Are those celebrants people you are friends with on Facebook spouting off their joy at his death or are they examples being gathered and shared by people you are friends with on FB?
 
rodoheel said:
You're not seriously surprised by this, are you? This has been the right's MO for years now. Thy started doing this basically the second Kirk was shot. This is "LibsofTikTok" writ la
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Ramrouser said:
I see A LOT of libs celebrating Kirk's death on my social media feeds - not just purple haired barista's - educators, administrators, nurses, Drs., a Secret Service agent, police officers and business owners. It's pretty widespread unfortunately.

No question the social media algorithms are giving us what we want to see but I see a danger in getting people too fired up. The problem is that many people are giving them content to send out.
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I am glad you see a danger of getting people too fired up, and I agree many people have been stoking it once Obama was elected president ?

I assume you would support the call for Trump, JD Vance, and GQP members of Congress to stop stoking the MAGAs and have them be responsible as leaders and call for the country to come together and heal the country.
 
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WaynetheDrain said:
What is your definition of “celebrating?”

And be honest.
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I don't have FB so it's not my friends or group commenting.

I see lots of libs commenting on the death basically stating that Kirk had it coming, i.e. he deserved the bullet in his neck.

Others gleefully singing songs sending "thoughts and prayers" to Kirk. While social media may be amplifying this issue I disagree that it is isolated.

There's definitely an assassination culture developing on the left. A September 10, 2025 YouGov poll found that in the immediate aftermath of the Kirk shooting 72% of Americans said violence is never justified, while 11% said it can be sometimes justified. The question asked respondents was whether they think "it is ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goals." Liberals more likely to say that violence is sometimes justified.

25% of respondents who identified as "very liberal" said violence can sometimes be justified to achieve political goals.

17% of those who identified as "liberal" agreed

9% of moderates agreed

6% of conservatives

3% of very conservative.

Younger Americans were also more likely to say political violence can be justified.

25% of liberals under 45 years agreed with this statement.
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't have FB so it's not my friends or group commenting.

I see lots of libs commenting on the death basically stating that Kirk had it coming, i.e. he deserved the bullet in his neck.

Others gleefully singing songs sending "thoughts and prayers" to Kirk. While social media may be amplifying this issue I disagree that it is isolated.

There's definitely an assassination culture developing on the left. A September 10, 2025 YouGov poll found that in the immediate aftermath of the Kirk shooting 72% of Americans said violence is never justified, while 11% said it can be sometimes justified. The question asked respondents was whether they think "it is ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goals." Liberals more likely to say that violence is sometimes justified.

25% of respondents who identified as "very liberal" said violence can sometimes be justified to achieve political goals.

17% of those who identified as "liberal" agreed

9% of moderates agreed

6% of conservatives

3% of very conservative.

Younger Americans were also more likely to say political violence can be justified.

25% of liberals under 45 years agreed with this statement.
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Now check the polls before Charlie Kirk's killing. You're going to find very different results. Polling has consistently found over the past decade that conservatives are much more comfortable with political violence that liberals.

It's a very weird question to ask. Of course it is sometimes justified for citizens to resort to violence to achieve political goals. Our country's founding was based on violence for political aims. We fought a civil war over political aims. The author of our Declaration of Independence wrote that political violence was sometimes justified. We also killed lots of native Americans. So anyone who thinks the US has legitimacy as a country must also admit that political violence is sometimes justified.

My view is that violence is justified to overcome oppression when all other means have failed. The Civil War was a good thing because it ended slavery, and because there did not appear to be any other means of accomplishing that. Coup plotters should be executed, because by definition they are seeking to eviscerate law and politics and thus leaves violence as the only resort.
 
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