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The Heroic Fire Department and Civil Protection team from Acuña, Coahuila, Mexico, together with Fundación 911 México, they traveled today to Kerrville, Texas 🇺🇸 to join the search and rescue efforts after the severe flooding caused by the overflow of the Guadalupe River. 🌊
This mission is in response to a request for support from Texas EquuSearch, an organization dedicated to locating missing persons.
It’s a powerful reminder to support those who always show up for others.
👨‍🚒 Members of the Acuña Civil Protection & Fire Department Water Rescue Team and Fundación 911 México:
• Carlos Flores
• Javier Alvarado Lumbreras
• Cristopher Abraham Herrera
• Roel Delgado Martínez
• José Omar Llanas
• Aldo Ortiz Rodríguez
• Mario Alberto Linares
• Guillermo Samuel Quiroz
• Javier Isaac Alvarado
• Jesús Eduardo Salas
👥 Fundación 911 México members:
• Ismael Aldaba Flores
• Miguel Ángel González
• Jesús Gómez Arizpe
👏🏻 Deep respect and admiration to these brave individuals for their dedication and solidarity beyond borders! Muchas gracias MEXICO!! 🇲🇽

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from WRAL
5:45 a.m.: In Chatham County, N.C. 87 is impassable where it crosses Terrel Creek, near Chicken Bridge Road, and where it crosses Long Branch, near Castle Rock Farm Road. N.C. 902 near Chatham Central Road has collapsed and is closed.
Chatham County Sheriff Mike Roberson posted on Facebook, "There are over 100 flooded roads and flooding will continue into tonight and tomorrow even after the rain stops. Stay off the roads but if you must go slow and DO NOT drive through water."
 
Quite a few trees down driving on Mt. Carmel Church today. Yesterday a tree was down on 54 in Carrboro as well.
 
Zoo_View said:
Eastgate has flooded since it was built in 1958.

Nothing should have been built there.

It’s a fucking flood zone “uphill” from a swamp close to the confluence of New Hope, Booker, Bolin, and Morgan Creeks.

Booker Creek ostensibly runs under Eastgate headed towards the Rainbow Soccer fields, University Mall, Glen Lennox…..you know……places that flood in heavy rains.

Squids has generally been just high enough to not swamp.
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Downstream is the golf course community. That will be interesting to see. During Fran the sewer plant got flooded- by the Finley golf course. If that happens nothing good happens
 
Icky Mettle said:
With Helene, there had been warnings for a few days that a tropical storm would make its way through that part of the state. Because of the warnings and because it was a tropical storm (vs. forecasts of just rainfall), most of those who remained in the area sheltered in secured structures, and you didn’t have people out camping by the rivers or just being out and about.

With the Texas flooding, while it is related to a tropical storm, the tropical storm itself was not making its way to that area. There weren’t the same level of warnings. And people were out camping, being out and about, and not sheltering in secured structures.
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Yeah, I get what happened and agree the notice for WNC made a big difference (although from what I've heard, a lot of people in those communities did not get the warnings). I think more than anything, it's just how floods work in that part of the country. The flooding in the Triangle looks horrible and there will be a lot of damage, but I'm fairly confident the death toll will be far, far lower. The state would be in utter shock if a storm like that, as bad as it was, killed 80+ people. I find it equally shocking it happened in Texas, notwithstanding the geographical differences between the places.
 
Carolina Fever said:
32 dead, including 14 kids, from flooding in Texas. A lot of girls that were at a summer camp are still missing, too.

www.wral.com

14 children in Texas are among the 37 dead from flash floods as the search continues for the missing

KERRVILLE, Texas (AP) — Rescuers scoured flooded riverbanks littered with mangled trees Saturday and turned over rocks in the search for more than two dozen children from a girls’ camp and many others missing after a wall of water blasted down a river in the Texas Hill Country. The storm killed...
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"Camp Mystic is a private Christian summer camp for girls. Established in 1926, Mystic is nestled among cypress, live oak, and pecan trees in the hill country of west-central Texas on the banks of the beautiful Guadalupe River."

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I say this carefully and hoping this comment isn't triggering for anyone here, but I really hope the Texas disaster can be a wake up call for summer camps the same way the horrible Phi Gamma Delta fire was for Greek organizations. At almost all summer camps, water is a huge part of the experience. As climate change continues to pour gasoline on our weather systems, I hope all summer camps will take a look at what could happen if a storm develops that drops two or three times more rain than it would have a few years ago. The Guadalupe River may be unique in some ways, but I'm fairly sure there are countless summer camps across the country that have comparable risk in this scenario.
 


Right by the Saxapahaw General Store, Ballroom and the Eddy. Spent a lot of time there and never occurred to me that water could or would get that high outside of a major hurricane.
 
And it seems we are seeing more and more of these types of flooding from tropical systems that aren't really major storms as far as wind but stall and dump a lot of rain somewhere.
 
City of Mebane is experiencing water problems due to heavy rainfall.

Here’s a message from City of Mebane:

“Efforts to operate the Mebane water system at a low pressure level will be unable to be maintained as the impacts of Tropical Storm Chantal have impacted Orange-Alamance Water Authority's ability to provide water to the City of Mebane. As a result, the City of Mebane is asking all customers to limit their water usage to zero level for the remainder of today, effective upon this call. An update will be provided at 5 p.m. or beforehand if Orange-Alamance Water Authority can provide additional water or the Graham-Mebane Water Treatment Plant operations can be restored.”
 
Hillsborough residents have also been asked to boil and conserve water due to flooding at the water treatment plant.
 
theel4life said:
No fucking warning. 😡
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They did have warning. There was a flood warning out from the NWS four hours beforehand. They just didn't pay attention. The camp should have had NOAA weather radios to alert them. There was even a dangerous flood warning out for the river an hour before the flood waters came through the camp, but they didn’t know because they were asleep and didn't have any warning system like a NOAA weather.
 
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