Tracking UNC’s School of Civic Life and Leadership

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I thought that was a decent article. All over the place with the narrative, but lots pf information and some good quotes. Plenty for supporters and opponents to pull out but I saw a few paragraphs that gave me hope for the program:

"After the pro-Trump mob entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Rose said he asked students if they “had a family member or friend who voted for Donald Trump. In a class of 56, 50 hands went up. I then asked them to keep their hands up if they thought this person’s vote was motivated by anything unsavory—say, sexism or racism. Every hand but two went down.” Rose said that “when you actually know others, they aren’t an abstraction onto which you can project your own political narratives.”"

"It’s unclear what the majority of UNC faculty now think of the school that hundreds protested. But Beth Moracco, current chair of the Chapel Hill faculty, said she’s heard cautious optimism; faculty have said the school could help, for instance, with the vigorous debate that may arise due to the election results.

“We as a society are quite polarized,” Moracco said, and “there’s always room for more engaged, constructive civil discourse.”"
 
I thought that was a decent article. All over the place with the narrative, but lots pf information and some good quotes. Plenty for supporters and opponents to pull out but I saw a few paragraphs that gave me hope for the program:

"After the pro-Trump mob entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Rose said he asked students if they “had a family member or friend who voted for Donald Trump. In a class of 56, 50 hands went up. I then asked them to keep their hands up if they thought this person’s vote was motivated by anything unsavory—say, sexism or racism. Every hand but two went down.” Rose said that “when you actually know others, they aren’t an abstraction onto which you can project your own political narratives.”"

"It’s unclear what the majority of UNC faculty now think of the school that hundreds protested. But Beth Moracco, current chair of the Chapel Hill faculty, said she’s heard cautious optimism; faculty have said the school could help, for instance, with the vigorous debate that may arise due to the election results.

“We as a society are quite polarized,” Moracco said, and “there’s always room for more engaged, constructive civil discourse.”"
That paragraph stood out to me, as well.

Because why in the world would anyone be surprised by the students' response to a question asking whether their friends and family were motivated by sexism or racism ?

An interesting question would have been how many students voted or supported Trump ?
 
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That paragraph stood out to me, as well.

Because why in the world would anyone be surprised by the students' response to a question asking whether their friends and family were motivated by sexism or racism ?

An interesting question would have been how many students voted or supported Trump ?
I think he was trying to push back on the narrative that the only reason someone would vote for Trump is because they were racist or sexist or whatever else CarolinaFever's broken record has mentioned for the 19th time today.
 
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It is pretty funny when you read the school’s mission statement, or listen to what its faculty say about the need for the school, how much of the language is around the need for diversity, equity, and inclusion.
 
I think he was trying to push back on the narrative that the only reason someone would vote for Trump is because they were racist or sexist or whatever else CarolinaFever's broken record has mentioned for the 19th time today.
He was creating a situation where it appears you have data to push back on that narrative, but in a way that is completely invalid as a statistical model.

It lets everyone feel good, but does nothing to actually address what statistical studies show us, that support for Trump has strong correlations to racial and other bigotries.
 
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