Trump 2028

Geisterfahrer said:
That is pure trolling.
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Yes and no.

There is, in fact, a big movement among MAGA/Project 2025 types to either (a) cast so much doubt on election results that Trump will proclaim martial law and remain president, with the blessing of a compliant R party; or (b) call off/delay elections altogether under a similar guise.

Whether Trump’s health will hold out that long is a matter of debate. And it does seem like Trump is on his last leg, trying to cement his legacy now before he dies.

And MAGA lives to troll the libs at all costs. So there is that.

But I think it’s a bit naive to chalk this whole thing up to trolling. He’s going to try for a 3rd term, if he’s alive.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Cute or not, I don’t think it’s allowed. The VP candidate has to be eligible to become President.
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Says who. With SCOTUS in pocket there are no rules. Forget Congress… they would be helpless. PLUS… there is better than good chance 2028 election will be rigged… legally at state level. The founders could not imagine how immoral politics would have become 250 years hence. So, there was no thought given to protecting the Constitution from a conniving asshole like Trump emboldened by a political party totally in grasp of corporations and wealth.
 
What Trumpism has shown is that the political rules and things like checks and balances and separation of powers don't really matter anymore - if you control all three branches of the federal government and most state governments you can pretty much do whatever the hell you want and dare your opposition to stop you if they can. The old rules are out the window. And one thing that has hobbled Democrats is that they either don't seem to understand this or they can't accept that the rules have changed - they're still trying to play by a set of rules that Trump & Company (including his Supreme Court) has largely made obsolete. And a good many Americans are still trying to wrap their heads around that fact.

They'll just find ways to subvert the 22nd Amendment or render it obsolete. Hell, Southern segregationists simply ignored the 14th and 15th Amendments for over 80 years after they were ratified to keep blacks from voting and make them second-class citizens, so what's to stop their ideological descendants from doing the same to other amendments they don't like? These are people who believe that established rules and laws and customs and norms were made to be broken.
 
Personally my concern has never been that Trump will run for president again but that he would run as VP along with a patsy who either expressly says he'll step aside for Trump after the election or does the whole "wink wink" thing about that. But in any event, IMO this is something Dems should stop talking about for now. Focus on the unpopular immigration crackdown and authoritarian actions, and continue to fight any suggestion of restricting voting for the midterms. No need to talk/worry about 2028 at this point.
 
UNCMSinLS said:
I'm hearing, "we'll see".
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Exactly. I'm honestly happy to be wrong if they are indeed trolling. But it would be absurdly naive to think they haven't thought about it or planned for it. Bannon, Stone, Trump, et al, aren't the "I was just joking around" types. I'm sure the same people were quite relieved to learn they'd actually won the election a year ago and whatever their plan for election results fuckery would not be needed and could be shelved for a future date.
 
EyeballKid said:
Yes and no.

There is, in fact, a big movement among MAGA/Project 2025 types to either (a) cast so much doubt on election results that Trump will proclaim martial law and remain president, with the blessing of a compliant R party; or (b) call off/delay elections altogether under a similar guise.

Whether Trump’s health will hold out that long is a matter of debate. And it does seem like Trump is on his last leg, trying to cement his legacy now before he dies.

And MAGA lives to troll the libs at all costs. So there is that.

But I think it’s a bit naive to chalk this whole thing up to trolling. He’s going to try for a 3rd term, if he’s alive.
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1. Trolling of the highest degree; and
2. Creates doubt that he's about to become a lame duck President.

No serious person thinks he's able to run for a third term.
 
rodoheel said:
Personally my concern has never been that Trump will run for president again but that he would run as VP along with a patsy who either expressly says he'll step aside for Trump after the election or does the whole "wink wink" thing about that. But in any event, IMO this is something Dems should stop talking about for now. Focus on the unpopular immigration crackdown and authoritarian actions, and continue to fight any suggestion of restricting voting for the midterms. No need to talk/worry about 2028 at this point.
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In the last few days, he ruled out basically all options to run again:

Trump dismisses 2028 VP run as ‘too cute,’ leaves door open to third term​


www.reuters.com

Trump dismisses 2028 VP run as ‘too cute,’ leaves door open to third term

The comments kept alive speculation about how Trump might seek to extend his time in office.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
ZenMode said:
In the last few days, he ruled out basically all options to run again:

Trump dismisses 2028 VP run as ‘too cute,’ leaves door open to third term​


www.reuters.com

Trump dismisses 2028 VP run as ‘too cute,’ leaves door open to third term

The comments kept alive speculation about how Trump might seek to extend his time in office.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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I don't think he's "ruled out" anything (as the headline writers of that Reuters article would obviously agree) but as I said, with at least some halfhearted public statements that aren't openly saying he's looking for ways to do it (as he had previously done), it's time for everyone to drop this issue for now.
 
Ramrouser said:
1. Trolling of the highest degree; and
2. Creates doubt that he's about to become a lame duck President.

No serious person thinks he's able to run for a third term.
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It's very funny that anyone would suggest that it's a good thing that the presidential administration engages in "trolling" the American people. If everyone knows he's trolling and not serious, then how does it do anything to create doubt about him being a lame duck president?
 
pspsps said:
What are examples of Donald Trump trolls? From what I’ve seen for more than a decade Trump presents absurdities for the moment in an effort to soft launch them as realities in the future.
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Well, at the end of December 2020 he tweeted “…it’s going to be wild” in reference to a rally he was having about a week later.

That ended up being nothing. We got trolled so hard
 
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