Trump Admin dismantling Dept. of Education — mass firings underway

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lawtig02 said:
There’s never been stronger evidence the GOP is a cult than the fact that 2/3 of them support closing the Department of Education. Absolutely pathetic.
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What's the photoshop - the one of the potbellied guy with a USA flag undershirt holding a beer saying "And I told that teachin' lady that the only letters I needed to know were U, S, and A!" A big part of Trumpism is that it's a war on "educated elites" - the professional classes. So from their perspective shutting it down makes perfect sense. They really do seem to believe now that getting your information off the dark corners of the web makes you just as much of an expert on a topic or problem as someone with a grad or undergrad degree whose entire career has been in that field. It's in part a movement of opinionated blowhards who think they know everything about every topic, with Rush Limbaugh being a classic prototype.
 
What about the Carl Perkins Act? Who’s going to manage that?
It was just re-upped in 2018, under Trump’s first merry-go-round.

Perkins is some serious pot o’ money. All of that goes to all the middle and high schools for all kinds of hands on learning: shop class, home Ec., Robotics, Carpentry, Masonry, welding, nursing, business classes, computer classes, auto mechanics, drafting, mechatronics, electronics, Culinary Arts, Fashion design, Interior Design, internships, apprenticeships, etc. . The list of very important classes that teach real-world skills hangs in the balance of Perkins.

Bubba-Maga loves him some of those classes. They’re the only reason he stayed in school

Is trump going to steal that money and let those classes die on the vine?
Fuck Trump!
 
superrific said:
So now the measure of effectiveness is head count? I would have thought the 200,000 employee number would be catnip for some sort of efficiency operation.

Seems to me that the DOE, with its 1500 employees managing 1.6T in assets, is doing an amazing job delivering strong returns.
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1,500 plus how many contracted employees?
 
Mulberry Heel said:
What's the photoshop - the one of the potbellied guy with a USA flag undershirt holding a beer saying "And I told that teachin' lady that the only letters I needed to know were U, S, and A!" A big part of Trumpism is that it's a war on "educated elites" - the professional classes. So from their perspective shutting it down makes perfect sense. They really do seem to believe now that getting your information off the dark corners of the web makes you just as much of an expert on a topic or problem as someone with a grad or undergrad degree whose entire career has been in that field. It's in part a movement of opinionated blowhards who think they know everything about every topic, with Rush Limbaugh being a classic prototype.
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in the words of the great Billy Joe Shaver...

I've been to Georgia on a fast train, honey
I wasn't born no yesterday
I got a good Christian raisin' and an eighth grade education
And ain't no need in y'all a treatin' me this way
 
ColdBlueSteel said:
1,500 plus how many contracted employees?
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The U.S. Department of Education had around 4,133 employees in January 2025, and after a reduction in force, it is expected to have around 2,183 staff members.

The 4133 probably includes every job, full time. PT and contractors.
 
heelinhell said:
in the words of the great Billy Joe Shaver...

I've been to Georgia on a fast train, honey
I wasn't born no yesterday
I got a good Christian raisin' and an eighth grade education
And ain't no need in y'all a treatin' me this way
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Another song which should find it’s way to the music page
 
heelinhell said:
That's a joke, right ? Please tell me that's a joke:unsure:
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Unless proven otherwise, it's probably true.

it's easier to just assume the dumb, stupid, and shity things quoted and posted by people and attributed to our presidont and his nazi handler are true
 
NOVAHEEL13 said:
Unless proven otherwise, it's probably true.

it's easier to just assume the dumb, stupid, and shity things quoted and posted by people and attributed to our presidont and his nazi handler are true
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That is certainly ZenMode’s methodology in posting the slew of misinformation he litters this board with. Then when shown to be wrong (and why y’all bother with it is still a mystery to me) he just say “I’ll take your word for it.”
 
ZenMode said:
Other than student loan management, is there any reason to believe that the DoEd is actually improving education in the US?
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It's difficult until we have separation of church and state in education also. We need less focus on ancient myths about history and religion and fewer impediments to real science, civics and respect for research and verified information.
 
wmheel1287 said:
How are kids with disabilities treated now compared to 40 years ago? I'm pretty sure you don't care about the answer to that question but it does answer your original query.
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A lot of perceptions have changed over 40 years. I'm sure things have improved for kids with disabilities, but how much of it is due to the DoEd handing out money? Do we believe states would completely drop the ball, today, with disabled kids without the DoEd?

The DoEd doesn't (can't) do anything about what is taught in schools or how well things are taught in schools. They hand out money for various things including student loans.

I'm not saying they do nothing, but do they need to exist as a separate department to handout money and manage student loans? I guess I just don't see what is so critical about what they do that makes the potential closure so distressing.
 
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"Handing out money" isn't the sole purpose of the Department of Education

If you would like to know more, read this before the information gets removed.

www.ed.gov

An Overview of the Department of Education

Information about the U.S. Department of Education's mission, organization, and strategic plans.
www.ed.gov www.ed.gov

This is a decent overview as well:

www.theguardian.com

What is the US Department of Education and what does it do?

Donald Trump signed an executive order to undo the federal department on Thursday
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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