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Trump Admin takes over D.C. Policing
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I don't think I'm the one in need of self-reflection, here. I point out a fallacy in one argument and people simply can't handle it. MAGAs aren't the only ones who want to live in their own reality, it seems.
I'm bored enough to try this once. If black behavior is the issue and it's relatively consistent across states (only when adjusted for income, education and societal pressures), then the major difference is what the other races do. I think it's bogus ,too, but only because it's such a broad take, not because it's inherently wrong. I've read that over 60% of violent crime is committed by 1 % of the population and are mostly male, mostly substance abusers and grew up disadvantaged, frequently being abused as children, physically, sexually and emotionally. What those places have in common are pockets of poverty, addiction and hopelessness. The main thing race has to do with it is that blacks have spent their entire time in the US at the bottom of the hill that the shit flows down. Appalachia and its hillbilly heroin almost seems worse to me.
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Not disagreeing with what you are saying as poverty, addiction, and hopelessness, as well as lingering effects from historical discrimination and marginalization play a huge role. However, as I said earlier when you have your most financially successful role models for that community glorifying dealing drugs and shooting people, then that behavior is encouraged and replicated amongst young people who have nothing else going for them. The root causes need to be addressed and artists making millions off of the glorification of murder is a major one of them. As I said earlier, if Morgan Wallen was singing nonstop about shooting people with assault rifles and young rednecks were doing just that on a consistent basis, then he'd be run out of Nashville. Well, at least he would have been ten years ago. The way things are going now there's no telling.
Do you know how totally stupid you look praising an entertainment figure of any ilk, barring Bonzo's costar Reagan and reality TV star Trump as a political or intellectual leader of any kind? With those examples , do you see how stupid it is to do so?
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Morgan Wallen should be run out of Nashville for being a shitty artist, but that's true of everyone who proclaims to sing country music now.
And by the way, ita nice that you're no longer pointing to "being black" as the cause of high murder rates. There is indeed an issue with glorification of drugs and violence by celebrities. There is also the fact that most of those celebrities are products of bad environments themselves. You dont change media and expect the situation to change. You work to improve the situation and let media follow the lead. I think it is horrendous when politicians and celebrities pose with firearms as if they are Props, but I dont think outlawing such is a path to the lessening of firearm injury and death.
And by the way, ita nice that you're no longer pointing to "being black" as the cause of high murder rates. There is indeed an issue with glorification of drugs and violence by celebrities. There is also the fact that most of those celebrities are products of bad environments themselves. You dont change media and expect the situation to change. You work to improve the situation and let media follow the lead. I think it is horrendous when politicians and celebrities pose with firearms as if they are Props, but I dont think outlawing such is a path to the lessening of firearm injury and death.
Entertainment figures have an impact on people, particularly young people. It is naive to suggest otherwise. If you grow up in a culture that glorifies NASCAR, for example, as a teenager you are probably going to be motivated to spend your money on a used car that drives too fast. If you grow up in a culture that glorifies gang banging, you're probably going to spend that money on a Glock with a switch.
I've never said someone's skin color is the reason they do or don't commit crime. However, a cultural environment can play a role in the decisions that someone makes and different ethnic groups can have their own cultures and subcultures. Within whites you have rednecks but you also have hipsters and guys with neckbeards who drink IPAs, for example. Condemning aspects of one subculture is not condemning the entire ethnicity. For example, I hate how so many rednecks are part of the Trump cult. I wish that part of their culture would change. That does not mean that I hate white people, though. I dislike gang culture, but that does not mean that I dislike black people.
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ma tax dolars!!1!!!
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Trump:
“look, DC, it’s a miracle what’s happened. I mean they can come up with fake number like the mayor’s do going oh no it was going down for 20 years you live here you know, have you been mugged? OK. DC was a hellhole and now it’s safe. And in fact I played out this morning I said I hate to say this because it doesn’t sound very good but there have been no murders in DC in the last week that’s the first time in anybody’s memory that you haven’t had a murder in a week.
And I think the mayor has to get on the ball because uh we have uh a situation uh she’s a nice woman but I’ll tell you what she’s gotta get on the ball I don’t want to see phony numbers. DC had an all-time high last year of absolute total crime and it continued pretty bad. And then we put some strength into it got that the numbers down a little bit but uh we brought in the DC National Guard and we coupled them with the police and it has been amazing.
I have friend that live here people that work in the White House but I have friends that live here and they’re all going out to dinner now. They haven’t gone out in years. One man I told the story yesterday when we were with the police and the National Guard we had a great little celebration we brought them hamburgers brought’em pizza but we were with them and I told the story about one friend hasn’t been out in four years to a restaurant and now he’s been out four nights in a row. He called me this morning by the way, he said it’s so safe he feels like totally safe. He can walk he’s got a ten block walk he walks it. He wouldn’t have walked those ten blocks he said it would be a a chain of hell he called it. He said it’s it was just horrible he had no chance of making it to the tenth block”
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I would love to know what the majority of the National Guard troops think of being there and away from their homes and families for this bullshit.
I know they do on the young, naive and stupid. Fwiw, both those are both fairly narrow and new niches. You're not wrong but those are still molehills. None of those celebrities deserve to have their opinions taken seriously because of their fame. If they are for that reason, that is damned poor judgment by the person who did it and they deserve what happens.
You might think it's just nature but,
“Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we were put in this world to rise above.”
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At least the DC guard live near by, though they are missing time at their real jobs. The folks shipped from other states? Sucks for them to waste their time this way away from family and home to pose for photos on the National Mall (though still a lot better than two decades of folks getting shipped to Iraq or Afghanistan).
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They could have spent that money for the homeless instead. Absolutely ridiculous to make all the funding cuts he did with DOGE and then spend the money on this unnecessary crap because Trump is such an insecure dumbass. You have to be completely brainwashed to not see what he is doing with this and all the other bullshit he has done since being in office. It's all completely racist, bigoted, fascist bullshit. I have a hard time at all having any pride in this country when we have enough stupid and deplorable people here to elect Trump and all the other MAGA assholes.
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“To me DC is very exciting. And a lot of people say well where’s he going from there? I have calls from politicians begging me to go to Chicago, begging me to go to New York, begging me to go to Los Angeles and if we didn’t go to Los Angeles with Newsom they run it so badly I don’t think we woulda been able to have the Olympics. They woulda ripped down that city. We went there and they stopped day one. And uhhh the chief of police of Los Angeles when they asked him the question he said thank god they came because we could not have handled what was happening.
We went in we stopped it and that was it. So they needed help they don’t like to say it. I wish they’d say we need help. I wish the mayor of DC would say we need help we’re overridden with crime and we need help but instead of saying the stats are down, I mean they’re under investigation now for fake numbers where they fudged the numbers and they did. There no question about it they said oh well on a down trend for twenty years. NO. They’re on an uptrend for twenty years.”