Trump & GOP v. Pope Leo

theel4life said:
These people better hope there is no such thing as heaven and hell.
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Suppose, Franklin, that it's Donald Trump who is evil and who is committing acts of evil. You're supporting a guy who fits more of the criteria for an Antichrist than almost anyone in America that you claim is evil or misguided. You're part of a fake anti-Christian cult, dude. (Not that he cares, of course)
 
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chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell wrote, “Secretary Hegseth on Wednesday shared a custom prayer, referenced as the CSAR prayer, used by the brave warfighters of Sandy-1 who led the daylight rescue mission of Dude 44 Alpha out of Iran, which was obviously inspired by dialogue in Pulp Fiction. However, both the CSAR prayer and the dialogue in Pulp Fiction were reflections of the verse Ezekiel 25:17, as Secretary Hegseth clearly said in his remarks at the prayer service. Anyone saying the Secretary misquoted Ezekiel 25:17 is peddling fake news and ignorant of reality.”

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gregh1 said:
chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell wrote, “Secretary Hegseth on Wednesday shared a custom prayer, referenced as the CSAR prayer, used by the brave warfighters of Sandy-1 who led the daylight rescue mission of Dude 44 Alpha out of Iran, which was obviously inspired by dialogue in Pulp Fiction. However, both the CSAR prayer and the dialogue in Pulp Fiction were reflections of the verse Ezekiel 25:17, as Secretary Hegseth clearly said in his remarks at the prayer service. Anyone saying the Secretary misquoted Ezekiel 25:17 is peddling fake news and ignorant of reality.”

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It's been fun to see Petey mocked for it, but I do agree he wasn't claiming that prayer was straight out of the Bible. The more legitimately concerning aspects of this to me are (1) why in the everloving hell is the SecDef conducting overtly Christian worship services at the Pentagon????, and (2) Petey looked like an absolute idiot treating that thing as an actual prayer, which he said reverentially, as opposed to the "rah rah, let's go kick ass" reference to Pulp Fiction it was clearly intended to be by the troops who wrote it.
 
gregh1 said:
chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell wrote, “Secretary Hegseth on Wednesday shared a custom prayer, referenced as the CSAR prayer, used by the brave warfighters of Sandy-1 who led the daylight rescue mission of Dude 44 Alpha out of Iran, which was obviously inspired by dialogue in Pulp Fiction. However, both the CSAR prayer and the dialogue in Pulp Fiction were reflections of the verse Ezekiel 25:17, as Secretary Hegseth clearly said in his remarks at the prayer service. Anyone saying the Secretary misquoted Ezekiel 25:17 is peddling fake news and ignorant of reality.”

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The Pulp Fiction long monologue by SLJ is what was quoted, word for word (I think he only got one wrong). It is very different from Ezekiel 25:17, which is a single sentence. Pete Kegsbreath would know that if he actually read the passage.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Suppose, Franklin, that it's Donald Trump who is evil and who is committing acts of evil. You're supporting a guy who fits more of the criteria for an Antichrist than almost anyone in America that you call out as evil or misguided. You're part of a fake anti-Christian cult, dude. (Not that he cares, of course)
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He knows. And nope, he doesn't care. It's not about religion for him. It's all about the money. I bet he's got one hell of a successful stock portfolio at the moment. If he didn't he wouldn't be carrying Trump's water for him like this. No one would.
 
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nycfan said:
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🎁. https://www.wsj.com/politics/trump-...a?st=BiUE2m&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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Overall that was a pretty depressing article. A few Catholics said that they were fed up with Trump and no longer supported him after his attacks on the Pope and the blasphemous AI image he posted of himself as Christ healing the sick, but most Catholics they interviewed were still sticking with him all the way- "he's doing so much good for the country", "he's better than the [Democratic] alternative", "he got us the Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe v. Wade", and on and on. They'll never abandon the guy - he really could just shoot someone in the head on Fifth Avenue and they'd excuse it somehow. They claim to love the Pope, but want him to do what Trump says - just shut up and stay out of US politics. There's a word for these people, and it ain't Christian.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Overall that was a pretty depressing article. A few Catholics said that they were fed up with Trump and no longer supported him after his attacks on the Pope and the blasphemous AI image he posted of himself as Christ healing the sick, but most Catholics they interviewed were still sticking with him all the way- "he's doing so much good for the country", "he's better than the [Democratic] alternative", "he got us the Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe v. Wade", and on and on. They'll never abandon the guy - he really could just shoot someone in the head on Fifth Avenue and they'd excuse it somehow. They claim to love the Pope, but want him to do what Trump says - just shut up and stay out of US politics. There's a word for these people, and it ain't Christian.
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Yeah, but he doesn't have to lose everyone all at once. He keeps doing stupid shit, he keeps losing support from people. Different people each time, perhaps, and many who will stick with him forever . . . but this is how you get to a 35% approval rating.
 
A certain segment of the electorate will both forgive and endorse any and everything that St. Donald of Mar-A-Lago does, . . ., as long as they are convinced that such actions "own the libs." And the fact that such actions are or may be harmful to their own self-interests is entirely irrelevant.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Overall that was a pretty depressing article. A few Catholics said that they were fed up with Trump and no longer supported him after his attacks on the Pope and the blasphemous AI image he posted of himself as Christ healing the sick, but most Catholics they interviewed were still sticking with him all the way- "he's doing so much good for the country", "he's better than the [Democratic] alternative", "he got us the Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe v. Wade", and on and on. They'll never abandon the guy - he really could just shoot someone in the head on Fifth Avenue and they'd excuse it somehow. They claim to love the Pope, but want him to do what Trump says - just shut up and stay out of US politics. There's a word for these people, and it ain't Christian.
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Agree. One cannot be both a Trump supporter and a Christian at the same time. Based on the body of evidence, and it is monstrous, the two can only be considered to be mutually exclusive.
 
I think people underestimate how much Trump has been convinced by his religious sycophants that he has God on his side and how important that has become to his world view as he ages. His umbrage at the Pope may be in no small part arising from resection a majors religious figure challenging that.

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nycfan said:
I think people underestimate how much Trump has been convinced by his religious sycophants that he has God on his side and how important that has become to his world view as he ages. His umbrage at the Pope may be in no small part arising from resection a majors religious figure challenging that.

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a petty insecure little man desperately seeking support from wherever he can find it...
 
lawtig02 said:
It's been fun to see Petey mocked for it, but I do agree he wasn't claiming that prayer was straight out of the Bible.
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He didn't say the prayer was straight out of the Bible, but he referenced Ezekiel 25:17 and showed no indication that he knew what he was quoting was a reference to Pulp Fiction (which intentionally changed the actual Ezekiel 25:17).

I think what is actually more shocking here is not that Pete Hegseth wouldn't recognize a random verse from Ezekiel as he likely has no real operational understanding of the Bible beyond a few cherry-picked verses, it's that he doesn't recognize a very famous reference from Pulp Fiction given that he's mid-40s and the kind of guy who would have been unironically drawn to Tarantino movies back in the day.
 
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