Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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DiehardHeelFan said:
Wasn’t sure where to put something about DOGE

DOGE wants to trim a $500 billion list of federal 'zombie' programs that includes veterans' healthcare, Pell grants, and NASA​


www.businessinsider.com

DOGE wants to trim a $500 billion list of federal 'zombie' programs that includes veterans' healthcare, Pell Grants, and NASA

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are looking at a list of programs with expired funding authorization, including NASA and childcare grants.
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Go for it! Cut every one of those programs and then have Trump hold one of those signing ceremonies where he scribbles his signature with a sharpie and holds it up for all to see how decisive and strong he is. That would expedite matters quite well.
 
nycfan said:
The obvious efficiency of having two heads of a department that doesn’t exist, plus a rabble-rousing “subcommittee chair”(?) and no statutory authority to do anything is a really encouraging start for a proposed radical restructuring of the Federal government.
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I love this quote from that link.

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed published Wednesday, Musk and Ramaswamy lamented that “most government enforcement decisions and discretionary expenditures aren’t made by the democratically elected president or even his political appointees but by millions of unelected, unappointed civil servants.”

"Musk and Ramaswamy, who are also unelected, said they “will advise DOGE at every step to pursue three major kinds of reform: regulatory rescissions, administrative reductions and cost savings.”
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
I love this quote from that link.

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed published Wednesday, Musk and Ramaswamy lamented that “most government enforcement decisions and discretionary expenditures aren’t made by the democratically elected president or even his political appointees but by millions of unelected, unappointed civil servants.”

"Musk and Ramaswamy, who are also unelected, said they “will advise DOGE at every step to pursue three major kinds of reform: regulatory rescissions, administrative reductions and cost savings.”
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Especially given that Vivek has never run a real business in his life, and Musk's recent management endeavors have been pretty iffy. They both hate workers, though.
 
Ramaslimy got rich by running a pump and dump scam on a failed FDA drug. He had his mother, a doctor, run bogus tests, went on Jim Cramer's show to pump the BS "test results." The stock soared. He and family and friends bailed (the dump part). The drug went nowhere, and investors got fleeced for 100s of millions.

Ironically, this is also the same period that Ramaslimy pitched his DEI as a positive to investor groups.
 
CFordUNC said:
My hope as it pertains to immigration is that the administration will deport the folks who are already slated for deportation and call it a win, and will then expend significant resources beefing up border patrol personnel, technological means of securing the border, and more immigration/asylum/work visa processing personnel. I won't agree with any needlessly cruel or inhumane methods, and I won't appreciate any performative political theater, but if Trump 2.0 figures out a way to solve (or make a lot of progress toward solving) our immigration issues, I'll happily tip my cap. It's obviously well-documented how much I don't approve of Trump as a person or as a leader, but as I keep saying, I am sincerely hoping that some good comes out of his second administration. I'm going to choose to look on the bright side until or unless given reason otherwise.
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How will they afford to beef up border security when they are talking about cutting 2 trillion from the budget?

They can't pass anything like dreamers or guest worker programs because they did away with those and lied about how horrible they were.

I doubt it gets solved, it hasn't in the last 50 years.

If he does, and it's something of substance, not deporting 15 million people and sending the economy into a free fall, then I'll be happy that something is finally done. If something gets done, his part will probably be signing it. Thinking isn't his strong suit.
 
Callatoroy said:
Oh there will be some human pain and this board will go insane with "separating kids from families" and "putting kids in cages" and trying to undo all the bad the biden administration caused.
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It takes a real piece of shit to put "separating kids from families" and "putting kids in cages" in quotation marks as if either of those aren't really a big deal, but damned if you didn't do it. Congrats. Now that I think about it, I wouldn't mind seeing your kids "separated" from you and "put in cages." I suspect you might drop your pathetic little quotation marks then, you miserable motherfucker. The only shocking thing is that you didn't put "human pain" in quotation marks. Human pain! How droll! Go fuck yourself..
 
nycfan said:


“…
America’s food-supply chain relies on a predominantly immigrant workforce for some of its most challenging jobs, such as picking fruit, applying pesticides on crops, operating machinery and slaughtering livestock. About two-thirds of U.S. crop-farm workers are foreign-born, and 42% aren’t legally authorized to work in the country, according to a Labor Department report.

Agriculture trade groups are lobbying the incoming administration for the expanded use of temporary work visas. Some farms and meatpackers are forging deeper ties with recruiters who can ensure a steady labor supply.

… During the first Trump administration, the plants were a target for immigration officials, who led raids of pork facilities in Ohio and a Mississippi plantowned by large poultry producer Koch Foods. In an interview with a New York television station earlier this month, Homan said he expects raids of meatpacking plants and other workplaces to occur again.

Desperate for labor in the Covid-19 pandemic’s wake, meat processors hired migrants from Haiti and other countries who could legally work in the U.S. under the Temporary Protected Status program, according to industry officials. Executives worry that, if Trump ends the program, it could jeopardize the legal status of the people working in their plants. …”
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Exactly right. Think about the level of inflation on the American consumer when Tariffs and disruption of the supply chain by idiotic deportations are implemented.
 
nycfan said:


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America’s food-supply chain relies on a predominantly immigrant workforce for some of its most challenging jobs, such as picking fruit, applying pesticides on crops, operating machinery and slaughtering livestock. About two-thirds of U.S. crop-farm workers are foreign-born, and 42% aren’t legally authorized to work in the country, according to a Labor Department report.

Agriculture trade groups are lobbying the incoming administration for the expanded use of temporary work visas. Some farms and meatpackers are forging deeper ties with recruiters who can ensure a steady labor supply.

… During the first Trump administration, the plants were a target for immigration officials, who led raids of pork facilities in Ohio and a Mississippi plantowned by large poultry producer Koch Foods. In an interview with a New York television station earlier this month, Homan said he expects raids of meatpacking plants and other workplaces to occur again.

Desperate for labor in the Covid-19 pandemic’s wake, meat processors hired migrants from Haiti and other countries who could legally work in the U.S. under the Temporary Protected Status program, according to industry officials. Executives worry that, if Trump ends the program, it could jeopardize the legal status of the people working in their plants. …”
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No shit. This is what many people have been saying for years and years will happen if you eliminate immigrant labor nationwide. And while it has been brought up here many times, it's worth repeating that the GOP-controlled Alabama state government already tried doing this in 2010 and it was such a disaster that the state's farmers - many of whom were Republicans - ended up begging the state government to back off, as their crops were literally rotting in the fields and they couldn't find enough workers to pick them. I believe another state ended up using prison labor to pick the crops, but that didn't come close to solving the problem either. I've already seen posts from Trumpers about this claiming that there will be more than enough US workers who will be willing to replace immigrants doing this. I think they're deluded and are going to be very sadly mistaken.
 
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