Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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nycfan said:
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Of course it would be bad for government efficiency, but they don't really want government to be efficient. They're just going to do this to get more government workers to quit. The more workers they can drive out this way the less they'll have to actually fire. It's similar to what our state legislature is doing to teachers here in NC. Just refuse to give veteran teachers pay raises and gradually make conditions worse and worse by diverting more and more of the public school budget to vouchers and charters and so on, and then settle back and watch as fewer and fewer teachers enter the profession and veteran teachers take early retirement. The more miserable you can make workers, the more of them quit and the worse government services and public ed gets. It's a win-win for them.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Of course it would be bad for government efficiency, but they don't really want government to be efficient. They're just going to do this to get more government workers to quit. The more workers they can drive out this way the less they'll have to actually fire. It's similar to what our state legislature is doing to teachers here in NC. Just refuse to give veteran teachers pay raises and gradually make conditions worse and worse by diverting more and more of the public school budget to vouchers and charters and so on, and then settle back and watch as fewer and fewer teachers enter the profession and veteran teachers take early retirement. The more miserable you can make workers, the more of them quit and the worse government services and public ed gets. It's a win-win for them.
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Well, duh! You can't make money off public education, and you can't make public schools Christian schools.
 
finesse said:
What value is it to us?
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That’s not the right question. The important question is “what value is it to Trump?”

I’m sure a tropical country with stretches of beach on both the Caribbean and Pacific coasts presents significant opportunity for Trump family members to swindle developers while licensing the Trump name to adorn new high rise resort properties.
 
ZenMode said:
I don't think Hillary's loss is much different than Kamala's loss. I think Hillary lost because the Democratic Party had aligned itself much too closely with the woke / cancel culture/censorship contingency and she did nothing to disavow it. I think Kamala was largely a victim of the same thing. Voters were pushing back against identity politics and trans activism and she did nothing to disavow either of those two things.
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As I've said before, everyone has an opinion on why Harris lost and they're all probably right to varying degrees.

“The people in America voted,” Manchin said. “They had that opportunity, you know, to vote with Kamala Harris and with Donald Trump. Donald Trump, there’s not much hasn’t been said. You know exactly what you’re getting. He hasn’t made any bones about it.”

He added: “You might say, ‘That’s too far right.’ OK. If that’s the case, then why did they go too far right when Kamala was trying to come back to the middle a little bit?”

Instead, Manchin blamed Vice President Harris’ loss on her inability to cast herself as a moderate candidate after championing progressive issues during her first presidential run in 2019.

“If you try to be somebody you’re not, it’s hard,” Manchin said. He declined to endorse the vice president ahead of the election.
 
Anybody who considers the left the cancel culture/censorship group is so full of it their eyes are baby shit yellow. No one wants to infringe on real immediate personal freedoms more than Republicans whether it's your medical history, your sex life, your right to read what you want and for no practical reason at all except that they are offended. Well, they're offended if you're not one of them. Then God will forgive them in their version of Christianity.
 
Callatoroy said:
Do you actually think he is planning to take the panama canal? I mean do you seriously think that? How would he do it? He wants something from panama. Likely to stop refugees from coming or help in stemming the flow of drugs. Could be anything. Its the typical trump playbook. Its almost laughable how you guys freak out over something that he isn't even capable of doing. He really does live in your heads rent free. He can literally just post something and your pearls get polished over and over.
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The rhetoric about the Panama Canal is incredibly insulting and dangerous. Why does this man insist on mistreating his allies, often times worse than his enemies? And then we have the chorus of idiots that parrot him "Yeah, what a great idea". Yes of course he wants something (he's too much of a wuss to actually deploy boots), but as leader of the worlds preeminent superpower....throwing stuff at the wall as half baked negotiating ploys is reckless.

Panama has been a team player the last 35 years; its governments are historically very friendly towards the US. Its current government is center right and aligned with the Trump friendly regimes in LatAm. Trump's statement means the Panamanian president will have to defend the canal, and the leftist governments of Lat Am will rush to his side. Panama is one of those countries that runs a huge trade deficit with the US.
 
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CRHeel94 said:
The rhetoric about the Panama Canal is incredibly insulting and dangerous. Why does this man insist on mistreating his allies, often times worse than his enemies? And then we have the chorus of idiots that parrot him "Yeah, what a great idea". Yes of course he wants something (he's too much of a wuss to actually deploy boots), but as leader of the worlds preeminent superpower....throwing stuff at the wall as half baked negotiating ploys is reckless.

Panama has been a team player the last 35 years; its governments are historically very friendly towards the US. Its current government is center right and aligned with the Trump friendly regimes in LatAm. Trump's statement means the Panamanian president will have to defend the canal, and the leftist governments of Lat Am will rush to his side. Panama is one of those countries that runs a huge trade deficit with the US.
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Because Trump needs to be the undisputed leader without a peer in any relationship/organization that he is in. That includes relationships with allies. If an ally doesn't show obvious deference, they will land on Trump's list to try to humiliate.

Personally, I think this is some Trump leveraging Panama to walk away from tax obligations of the Trump Org and some Trump wanting to reduce the fees for US vessels using the Canal. Trumps view seems to be based in large part on hatred of someone he does business with making profit as some of that profit would come from Trump's wallet. People who make profit but don't do business with Trump, he loves their business acumen. The Canal doesn't make enough to move the needle on the US budget/deficit and I cannot see Republicans agreeing to put up with a proposal to own & operate the Canal with US Federal workers given their love for "small" government.
 


His billionaire friends cannot wait for their Xmas come January 20.



Bob Roberts got it first.
 


Recall and Court Martial Milley is one of his apparent goals … also plenty of posts about prosecuting Liz Cheney.
 
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