Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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Maybe if the US was doing better in educating their citizens, we wouldn't need to bring in people with these skills.

It's interesting that Musk and drump seem to be ok bringing in lower paid people for the computer industry, but they want to stop those in the agricultural industry. Maybe it follows the thought of them wanting to dumb down the American worker, so they are easily manipulated? Maybe?
 
farce© said:
That’s not the right question. The important question is “what value is it to Trump?”
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My hunch is that he wants something tied to him that he's confident will be carried on into perpetuity.

Trump's only major accomplishment from his first term is the overturn of Roe v Wade. The problem from a perpetuity perspective is that someday abortion may be legalized again across the country and it's not fully directly tied to him, it was a Supreme Court decision and others share the credit of overturning Roe v Wade by enabling SCOTUS to be able to make the decision. (In fact, Mitch McConnell probably deserves more credit than Trump.)

Trump knows that a lot of things change in politics, but that land gained is rarely returned. Add in his familiarity with real estate and I would guess that he'd like to acquire a major territory so that it can go down as his legacy. (And, of course, he'd likely try to figure out a way to name it or something associated with it after himself.)

That's my theory on his sudden interest in expanding the US.
 
Can’t wait for the MAGA vs Tech Bros showdown.

Stephen Miller must be wetting himself to go after Musk.
 
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SnoopRob said:
My hunch is that he wants something tied to him that he's confident will be carried on into perpetuity.

Trump's only major accomplishment from his first term is the overturn of Roe v Wade. The problem from a perpetuity perspective is that someday abortion may be legalized again across the country and it's not fully directly tied to him, it was a Supreme Court decision and others share the credit of overturning Roe v Wade by enabling SCOTUS to be able to make the decision. (In fact, Mitch McConnell probably deserves more credit than Trump.)

Trump knows that a lot of things change in politics, but that land gained is rarely returned. Add in his familiarity with real estate and I would guess that he'd like to acquire a major territory so that it can go down as his legacy. (And, of course, he'd likely try to figure out a way to name it or something associated with it after himself.)

That's my theory on his sudden interest in expanding the US.
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“I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
 
SmilingJack said:
Wow it's like apartheid and Krugerrands never existed? Peter Theil, Musk et al are playing the pubs & public media like a fiddle and hate is such a great seasoning in any American meal. We best check ourselves before we wreck ourselves. I'm thinking it's too late.
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I saw this quote on Bluesky today….

“Silicone Valley tech bros are all vying to be the ‘Smartest Guy in the Room’ and, if they weren’t huffing their own farts, they’d realize that the actual smart people left the room.”
 
dcphx said:
I must have missed where all those "camps" were located and when people were able to keep themselves out of said "camps" via their personal gun ownership.
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Elon seems to have genuinely gone off the conspiracy deep end. For quite a time, I just assumed he was grifting the right and weaseling his way into government through the easiest lock to pick. Now he’s retweeting Tim Pool? I mean, Elon could keep in classy with Tucker, Dave Rubin, Rogan, Theo Von, and Shapiro, but Tim Pool is a genuinely pathetic incel Russian shill, who’s been exposed as a dipshit multiple times.
 
farce© said:
I saw this quote on Bluesky today….

“Silicone Valley tech bros are all vying to be the ‘Smartest Guy in the Room’ and, if they weren’t huffing their own farts, they’d realize that the actual smart people left the room.”
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Sounds like here, sometimes. I’m just sayin’.
 
UNCatTech said:
According to the local trump crowd they are all liberal and don't give poor little trump a fair shake.
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Of course. To them anything even remotely to the left (or really, towards the center) from Fox News is a radical leftist marxist Trump hating propaganda machine. Some now even consider Fox to be too rough on Dear Leader and so they listen to Newsmax or OAN or right-wing podcasts and talk radio. But in reality it's impossible to ignore the steady rightward drift of our news media overall, as more and more of it gets purchased by Trump-loving billionaire plutocrats and/or corporate conglomerates who have no intention of pissing off Trump or any of his minions in the government.
 
StrangePackage said:
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It shouldn't be surprising to me, but still, it's amazing that MAGA nation believes that liberals are ungrateful America haters who look down on them and want to destroy the country, and yet Elon Musk says stuff like this and they don't bat an eye. Trump has also trashed the country on numerous occasions and ridiculed our military veterans (and especially those who have been wounded or killed in combat) as suckers, and yet his supporters think he's the guy who will make America great again. Sometimes all you can do is just shake your head and laugh at the insanity of it all.
 
A man breaking his journey between one place and another at a third place of no name, character, population, or significance, sees a unicorn cross his path and disappear. That in itself is startling, but there are precedents for mystical encounters of various kinds, or to be less extreme, a choice of persuasions to put it down to fancy; until – ‘My God,’ says a second man, ‘ I must be dreaming, I thought I saw a unicorn.’ At which point a dimension is added that makes the experience as alarming as it will ever be. A third witness, you understand, adds no further dimension but only spreads it thinner, and a fourth thinner still, and the more witnesses there are the thinner it gets and the more reasonable it gets until it is as thin as reality, the name we give to the common experience . . . . ‘Look, look!’ recites the crowd. ‘A horse with an arrow in its forehead! It must have been mistaken for a deer.’
 
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