Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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NYC. You're right about what would have happened if Biden had tried to do something similar. People would have lost their minds.

I think there's fat that can be cut, and these guys will likely have some success because there's so much of it, but San Francisco technology executives aren't really known for running the tightest ship. If he was going to do this right, he would pay some of the big consulting houses to do this.

But that's not some mystery. Whether it's tech Bros or McKenzie, identifying the inefficiencies is the easy part. Actually doing the cuts has always been a problem for n administrations. If Trump could pull it off, I think he would shoot his spot in political history up several notches, but it is Trump so I have my doubts. He doesn't need to get reelected but there are a whole bunch of congressmen who will need to tell their donors and the federal unions to take a haircut that do need to get reelected.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
NYC. You're right about what would have happened if Biden had tried to do something similar. People would have lost their minds.

I think there's fat that can be cut, and these guys will likely have some success because there's so much of it, but San Francisco technology executives aren't really known for running the tightest ship. If he was going to do this right, he would pay some of the big consulting houses to do this.

But that's not some mystery. Whether it's tech Bros or McKenzie, identifying the inefficiencies is the easy part. Actually doing the cuts has always been a problem for n administrations. If Trump could pull it off, I think he would shoot his spot in political history up several notches, but it is Trump so I have my doubts. He doesn't need to get reelected but there are a whole bunch of congressmen who will need to tell their donors and the federal unions to take a haircut that do need to get reelected.
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gtyellowjacket said:
NYC. You're right about what would have happened if Biden had tried to do something similar. People would have lost their minds.

I think there's fat that can be cut and these guys will likely have some success because there's so much of it but San Francisco technology executives aren't really known for running the tightest ship. If he was going to do this right, he would pay some of the big consulting houses to do this.

But that's not some mystery. Whether it's tech Bros or McKenzie, identifying the inefficiencies is the easy part. Actually doing the cuts has always been a problem for n administrations. If Trump could pull it off, I think he would shoot his spot in political history up several notches, but it is Trump so I have my doubts. He doesn't need to get reelected but there are a whole bunch of congressmen who will need to tell their donors and the federal unions to take a haircut that do need to get reelected.
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Yeah, an official government commission hiring top folks from top consulting and law firms to take a hard look at harmonizing regulations and seeking efficiency in the vast apparatus of the federal government is well overdue. And an absolutely massive job that might collapse under its own weight even with dedicated Top Minds.

But that is not what D.O.G.E. sounds like — at best it is an expansion of Jared Kushner’s ad hoc portfolio in Trump45, without teeth or power, where most of the Musk and Thiel fanboys will get bored and wander away eventually and claim victory or maybe that democracy is a failure and we should be a CEO run dictatorship.

And they are already moving the goalposts on cost cutting and even from cost cutting to regulatory reform to benefit the industries from whence der Kommissars will spring.
 
nycfan said:
Yeah, an official government commission hiring top folks from top consulting and law firms to take a hard look at harmonizing regulations and seeking efficiency in the vast apparatus of the federal government is well overdue. And an absolutely massive job that might collapse under its own weight even with dedicated Top Minds.

But that is not what D.O.G.E. sounds like — at best it is an expansion of Jared Kushner’s ad hoc portfolio in Trump45, without teeth or power, where most of the Musk and Thiel fanboys will get bored and wander away eventually and claim victory or maybe that democracy is a failure and we should be a CEO run dictatorship.

And they are already moving the goalposts on cost cutting and even from cost cutting to regulatory reform to benefit the industries from whence der Kommissars will spring.
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Yep. That's what I think's going to happen. They really could go after a lot of Federal agencies and cut some fat. My guess is, you'll have some people really doing it because they want to improve the government and you'll have a lot of people wanting to cripple agencies that they don't like like the EPA or the IRS. I just don't see this going well.
 
When McCroy came in he was hellbent on doing a similar thing in NC State govt They had mottos like "3 to 2" -ie cut one third of all jobs . I was at DHHS and Secreatry Vos brought in one her husbands top budget/efficiency guys to"Cut the fat and corruption in the bloated DHHS budget" He had access to anything , any meeting etc He stayed close to a year?
He literally found nothing to cut His whole bloated contract saved face by identifying something like 30 million of State money we could swap out for Federal money in some multibillion dollar program that is cost shared
My point
There really is not much "fat to cut" in Govt spending But yea it is a popular thing to rage about
 
mpaer said:
There really is not much "fat to cut" in Govt spending But yea it is a popular thing to rage about
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Of course. Look at that tweet above. They identified . . . $12M in expenditures (most of which are probably not waste). Americans have trouble with large numbers, which is how they get away with it. (might not be just Americans). But it would take 10,000 of those cuts (which is actually 5 cuts combined) to get to any significant amount of spending.
 
nycfan said:
Yeah, an official government commission hiring top folks from top consulting and law firms to take a hard look at harmonizing regulations and seeking efficiency in the vast apparatus of the federal government is well overdue. And an absolutely massive job that might collapse under its own weight even with dedicated Top Minds.

But that is not what D.O.G.E. sounds like — at best it is an expansion of Jared Kushner’s ad hoc portfolio in Trump45, without teeth or power, where most of the Musk and Thiel fanboys will get bored and wander away eventually and claim victory or maybe that democracy is a failure and we should be a CEO run dictatorship.

And they are already moving the goalposts on cost cutting and even from cost cutting to regulatory reform to benefit the industries from whence der Kommissars will spring.
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Moving the goalposts implies that was not their objective all along.
 
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gtyellowjacket said:
NYC. You're right about what would have happened if Biden had tried to do something similar. People would have lost their minds.

I think there's fat that can be cut, and these guys will likely have some success because there's so much of it, but San Francisco technology executives aren't really known for running the tightest ship. If he was going to do this right, he would pay some of the big consulting houses to do this.

But that's not some mystery. Whether it's tech Bros or McKenzie, identifying the inefficiencies is the easy part. Actually doing the cuts has always been a problem for n administrations. If Trump could pull it off, I think he would shoot his spot in political history up several notches, but it is Trump so I have my doubts. He doesn't need to get reelected but there are a whole bunch of congressmen who will need to tell their donors and the federal unions to take a haircut that do need to get reelected.
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Boz and McKenzie both suck. If they want improvements, especially with process, no one better to turn to than the Krauts. Celonis does excellent work. We Are Celonis, a Process Mining Leader | Celonis
 
Programs will be cut
Money that goes to hungry people, care for sick people ,stuff like that Period
For every dollar they "save" they will spend 5 on Tax cuts to folks/corporations with lots of money Cause STIMULUS
 
nycfan said:
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So DOGE identified five examples of what they presumably consider the most egregiously wasteful spending by the federal government in 2024, mischaracterizing these findings to the American public to foment outrage and justify DOGE's mission, and the grand total of these expenditures is $12 million. At this rate, fElon and his incel lackeys will colonize Mars before they get to $2 trillion in federal budget cuts.
 
JCTarheel82 said:
So DOGE identified five examples of what they presumably consider the most egregiously wasteful spending by the federal government in 2024, mischaracterizing these findings to the American public to foment outrage and justify DOGE's mission, and the grand total of these expenditures is $12 million. At this rate, fElon and his incel lackeys will colonize Mars before they get to $2 trillion in federal budget cuts.
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Well, it is one of 3-4 such tweets but all on similar scale.

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What Trump posted because being classy at a funeral would be asking too much

 
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